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3 October 2002 - 10 October 2002


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Two hours on the Internet = Rot! Nothin's new out there -- Dean Mayer, 06:47:35 10/10/02 Thu
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[> Re: Two hours on the Internet = Rot! Nothin's new out there * NOM * -- David A. Green, 09:29:36 10/10/02 Thu

Very good! You have already developed a highly original and unique style of anagramming. GENERAL NOM for this effort.
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[> Two long hours on the FORUM = Wroth! Foul! No NOM hurts ego ;) -- Paul Pan, 19:09:30 10/10/02 Thu
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Einsturzende Neubauten = Zen tune ennui busted ear -- Paul Pan, 23:43:18 10/09/02 Wed

Einsturzende Neubauten is a quirky German band that pioneered "Industrial Music". They use unvonventional instruments (including all sorts of rusty old machinery) and have caused earaches to even their most ardent of fans.
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[> Re: [ Zen tune ennui busted ear] Ent. NOM, Paul! -- Jaybur, 01:38:58 10/10/02 Thu
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[> [> Woa, thanks Janet! To be frank, that's the last 'gram I expected to see nommed ;) -- Paul Pan, 02:06:33 10/10/02 Thu
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[> Re: Einsturzende Neubauten = Zen tune ennui busted ear -- Wayne Baisley, 05:15:53 10/10/02 Thu

EU is a favorite of mine. (For those in the UK, EU are a favourite of mine. ;-) The name means "New buildings falling down". Hence, "Raze -- Tune's been ununited."

Since they're more-or-less the opposite of glam rock, they could claim that "Bedizeners untune a tune."

Cheers,
Wayne
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[> [> Re: Einsturzende Neubauten = Zen tune ennui busted ear -- Wayne Baisley, 06:09:37 10/10/02 Thu

And for those on this planet, um, I like *EN*. Sorry, I had U's stuck in the brain from trying to anagram them.

Argh,
Wayne
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[> [> [> Woa, another EN enthusiast ;) -- Paul Pan, 18:49:18 10/10/02 Thu
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A couple of ideas for discussion -- Larry Brash, 08:41:52 10/10/02 Thu

There are two issues that I would like peoples' opinions on.

1. How do people feel about reduced the duration of the voting from 5 to 4 days? I mentioned my reasons for this on The Results Page

2. I am trying out a new navigation system. I would like to know if it works on your browser and how you like it.Click here to try it

Larry
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[> Re: A couple of ideas for discussion -- Dean Mayer, 08:50:34 10/10/02 Thu

As I'm new here, can't comment on new voting suggestion because I didn't experience the old one!
But I do like the new navigation - good job.
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[> Re: A couple of ideas for discussion -- Mike Torr, 11:10:47 10/10/02 Thu

>1. How do people feel about reduced the duration of
>the voting from 5 to 4 days?

No problem for me.

>2. I am trying out a new navigation system. I would
>like to know if it works on your browser and how you
>like it.

Geometrically and functionally, it's great! Colour-wise, it needs some work.

The Blue-on-yellow that's always been used for the Anagrammy page titles is no problem in that context. However, the new menus have yellow-on-blue in a thin font, which is extremely hard to read (except when highlighted). Yellow and blue are complementary colours, making them bad partners. I would try yellow-on-black, with black-on-yellow as a highlight.
Oh yes, and one or two of the menu items over-run their boxes.
Apart from the colours, it works fine for me. I'm using Opera 6 under Windoze 2000.
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[> [> Re: A couple of ideas for discussion -- Larry Brash, 14:08:46 10/10/02 Thu


>Geometrically and functionally, it's great!
>Colour-wise, it needs some work.

Looked great on the Macintosh at home, but crap on the PC at work.

>The Blue-on-yellow that's always been used for the
>Anagrammy page titles is no problem in that context.
>However, the new menus have yellow-on-blue in a thin
>font, which is extremely hard to read (except when
>highlighted). Yellow and blue are complementary
>colours, making them bad partners. I would try
>yellow-on-black, with black-on-yellow as a highlight.
>Oh yes, and one or two of the menu items over-run
>their boxes.

Before I read your post, I changed it to darkblue in the boxes, and made the submenu texts bold. Looks much better now! The positions will be adjusted later.

Thanks for your input, Mike.

Larry
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[> Re: A couple of ideas for discussion -- Paul Pan, 18:20:02 10/10/02 Thu

>1. How do people feel about reduced the duration of the voting from 5 to 4 days?

Absolutely! However it would be a good idea to hold polls on weekdays.

>2. I am trying out a new navigation system. I would like to know if it works on your browser and how you like it..

Two thums up :) Just one suggestion: A newbie may have trouble locating the the Forum link. You might want to consider replacing "PARTICIPATE" with something along the lines of "PARTICIPATE IN OUR FORUM" or "POST YOUR ANAGRAMS", etc. In any case, this particular link should stand-out vis-a-vis the other buttons (on the other hand, I realize that making the navigation more idiot-proof will, err, allow more idiots in :P).
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The Tourette's Syndrome Association = Means they tic or utter noises. Too sad. -- David A. Green, 09:15:54 10/10/02 Thu

Tourette syndrome: a hereditary neurological disorder characterised by repeated involuntary spasms (tics) and uncontrollable vocalisations.
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[> Re: The Tourette's Syndrome Association -- O/NAMES *NOM* and suggestion -- Mike Torr, 11:15:41 10/10/02 Thu

Very good! But how about

The Tourette's Syndrome Association
=
Sad - they utter mean noises; or tics, too.

Take an O/NAMES NOM, whether for your original or this version.
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Scientists find fresh meteor crater in Siberia = Terrific smash rent it: debris is on fire at scene -- Mike Torr, 22:55:20 10/09/02 Wed
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[> Re: [Terrific smash rent it: debris is on fire at scene]Terrific! TOP NOM, Mike! -- Jaybur, 00:19:18 10/10/02 Thu
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[> [> Re: [Terrific! TOP NOM, Mike!] Thanks! Couldn't wish for a crater compliment (groan!) -- Mike Torr, 02:06:09 10/10/02 Thu
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[> Re: Scientists find fresh meteor crater in Siberia = Terrific smash rent it: debris is on fire at scene -- Dean Mayer, 06:33:25 10/10/02 Thu

Excellent! TOP NOM
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[> Sorry - missed! TOP NOM (!!!) -- Dean Mayer, 06:35:16 10/10/02 Thu
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[> [> Re: Sorry - missed! TOP NOM (!!!) -- Thanks, Dean! -- Mike Torr, 11:03:35 10/10/02 Thu
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Anagrams for geeks -- Mattias Inghe, 04:50:57 10/10/02 Thu

Super Mario = Am superior!

Now seldom avoiding ~ downloading movies.

Personal Computers? = Men supports Oracle!

Operating System = Settings? Pay more! / Steering? Pay most!

Open Source = Cons Europe

Open Source Software = One surfaces to power

Jolt Cola = Local jot

Floppy drive = Pop fervidly

A Beowulf cluster = Blow future scale

Agreeable snob, usually Root: ~ 'All your base are belong to us!'
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[> Re: Anagrams for geeks NOM -- Matjaz P., 05:08:54 10/10/02 Thu



Operating System
=
Settings? Pay more! / Steering? Pay most!

I believe I like this (set) most. it's a pity we don't
have a set category..
Anyway, Gen nom for "Settings? Pay more!"

matjaz P.
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Internet cafe = Net interface. -- Matjaz P., 03:42:40 10/10/02 Thu
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Homily = I'm Holy -- Anthony Nguyen, 01:19:53 10/10/02 Thu
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[> Re: [Homily = I'm Holy] -- seems to be new, so well done! Gen *NOM* -- Mike Torr, 03:33:33 10/10/02 Thu
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Just a joke -- Jaybur, 01:57:39 10/10/02 Thu

[This joke has been voted the world's funniest.]

A couple of New Jersey hunters are out in the woods when one of them falls to the ground. He doesn't seem to be breathing; his eyes are rolled back in his head. The other guy whips out his mobile phone and calls the emergency services. 'My friend is dead! What can I do?' he gasps to the operator. The operator, in a calm soothing voice, says: 'Just take it easy. I can help. Now first let's be sure your friend is dead.' There is a silence at the other end of the phone. Then a shot is heard. The guy's voice comes back on the line. 'OK. Now what?'

=

It seems, if we are to believe research data, that the Santa Claus 'Ho! Ho! Ho!' loved by kids, is indeed only fiction.

Human sounds differ, from grunts to womanly song-like utterances, not 'hee-hee', 'tee-hee', or 'ho-ho'. Psychoanalysts agree the primary purpose of laughter is to provoke reaction among those who hear it, and shape the listener's response.

I see the new best (clean) joke has just been identified.
The worthy psychologist behind the new eclectic wit research has had enough now, I read. But Net comedy's ideal...

Ho! Ho!
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[> Re: Just a joke - Nice one, Janet ;) Here's my reply... -- Adrian H, 02:56:12 10/10/02 Thu

A couple of New Jersey hunters are out in the woods when one of them falls to the ground. He doesn't seem to be breathing; his eyes are rolled back in his head. The other guy whips out his mobile phone and calls the emergency services. 'My friend is dead! What can I do?' he gasps to the operator. The operator, in a calm soothing voice, says: 'Just take it easy. I can help. Now first let's be sure your friend is dead.' There is a silence at the other end of the phone. Then a shot is heard. The guy's voice comes back on the line. 'OK. Now what?'

=

The funniest joke? The fact that this moderate piece of euphonious research has been allowed to run in the first place is a reasonably hilarious announcement. Ho-ho!

Who was behind the review?

The condemned, heartbroken psychologist with a nasty theory?

The sore-eyed Romeo philologist desperately seeking soothing?

The juvenescent Professor of Linguistic Studies - a data analysis of drollery?

Chevy Chase?

Rubbish! It was a down-trodden hot-headed cheese-monger attempting to hawk more cheeses! Hee-hee!
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Somewhat rude -- Adrian H, 20:03:50 10/09/02 Wed

Sexual lubrication = Luxuriant, sociable
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4 random 'grams (some rude, some just...bizarre) -- Ghud Sariffian, 10:51:25 10/08/02 Tue

A Science Fiction novel = Conviction: Alien feces!

Rectal intrusion = Realistic turn-on?
or the more brutal:
Rectal intrusion = Unrealistic! Torn!

Masters Of The Universe = Festive He-Man trousers

The Incredible Hulk = '...but he LIKE children.'
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[> Re: [The Incredible Hulk = '...but he LIKE children.'] LOL Come think of it, thatīs damn funny. Although a bit far fetched. :) -- Mattias Inghe, 08:21:43 10/09/02 Wed
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Israels raid on Khan Younis = I say 'So unkind, Ariel Sharon!' -- Mattias Inghe, 10:37:49 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: Israel's raid on Khan Younis = I say 'So unkind, Ariel Sharon!' *TOP NOM*, Mattias. -- Richard G, 13:25:56 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> Re: Israel's raid on Khan Younis = I say 'So unkind, Ariel Sharon!* NO(M) comment,Mattias!* -- Zoran, 21:08:33 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> [> Thanks for the nom folks! -- Mattias Inghe, 08:11:34 10/09/02 Wed
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The cops are seen = there's no escape -- Dean Mayer, 05:29:04 10/09/02 Wed
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[> Re: The cops are seen = there's no escape General NOM. -- Santi, 06:45:15 10/09/02 Wed
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[> [> Thanx for the NOM Santi! -- Dean Mayer, 06:54:33 10/09/02 Wed
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Meet the neighbours = enter - might be house -- Dean Mayer, 06:47:26 10/09/02 Wed
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There's a smell of fish around here (RUDE) -- Dean Mayer, 06:36:01 10/09/02 Wed

There's a smell of fish around here...

...Is fresh female urethra - hold nose
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Scientists identify a tenth planet = Nine left this distant space entity -- Dean Mayer, 05:53:02 10/09/02 Wed
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Disappearing act = aid escaping trap? -- Dean Mayer, 05:34:21 10/09/02 Wed
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the title -- Matjaz P., 04:27:05 10/09/02 Wed

Although this gram is somewhat contrived (I added 'The'),
the rest is what i see in Internet Explorer window title when i browse the forum.



The VoyForums: The Anagrammy Awards - Microsoft Internet Explorer
=
World for our sexy voters : Enter main site!



(hint: view source)


cheers, Matjaz
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[> The -- Matjaz P., 04:40:19 10/09/02 Wed

This is even more accurate ;)

The VoyForums: The Anagrammy Awards - Microsoft Internet Explorer = World for our sexy voters : Enter main site!



(hint: view source)


cheers, Matjaz
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Israeli army fires missiles onto a crowd in Gaza = Militarised social warfare gray-zone missions? -- Dean Mayer, 03:15:16 10/09/02 Wed
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The Teasmade = Steam heated. [Automatic tea-making device] -- Jaybur, 18:41:26 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [The Teasmade = Steam heated.] Other names nom, Jaybur. -- Richard G, 00:19:34 10/09/02 Wed
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[> [> Re: Thanks for the Nom, RG! -- Jaybur, 03:00:40 10/09/02 Wed
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Artistic = Attic, sir? -- Jaybur, 18:10:58 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: Artistic = Attic, sir? I like it :) Gen NOM -- Paul Pan, 22:26:06 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> Re: Gen NOM: Thanks, Paul! Attic dweller = Well, cited art! -- Jaybur, 02:58:22 10/09/02 Wed
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Metro Station = Train toots me ! -- Zoran, 02:40:45 10/09/02 Wed
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IN A STATION OF THE METRO (revised version) -- Santi, 02:19:54 10/09/02 Wed

IN A STATION OF THE METRO
(verses written by the poet E. pound in his early years)



The apparition of these faces in the crowd
Petals on a wet, black bough.

(from "Personae")

=

(beep)
HINT FROM THE DRIVER

See, The stink of a fart in the coach isn't nice at all. Nope!
Beware, pigs!
Stop it, you bean eaters, don't...

wow, yes, a hot fart!

Sorry...

(ape)

...ehm, loosen up!
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October noms to date -- Richard G, 01:53:45 10/09/02 Wed

CURRENT NOMS

---
RG
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My american poetry series continue... -- Santi, 01:21:49 10/09/02 Wed

IN A STATION OF THE METRO
(verses written by E. pound in his early youth.)

The apparition of this faces in the crowd
Petals on a wet, black bough.

(from "Personae")

=

(beep)

A HINT FROM THE DRIVER

The stink of the farts in the coach isn't nice at all.
Beware!
Dont fart, you pigs! stop eatin' beans, you...

wow!

oh, I'm sorry...

(ape)

...loosen up!
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[> Re: My American poetry series continues... dumb typos! -- Santi, 01:29:48 10/09/02 Wed

>IN A STATION OF THE METRO
>(verses written by E. pound in his early youth.)
>
>The apparition of this faces in the crowd
>Petals on a wet, black bough.
>
>(from "Personae")
>
> =
>
>(beep)
>
>A HINT FROM THE DRIVER
>
>The stink of the farts in the coach isn't nice at all.
>Beware!
>Dont fart, you pigs! stop eatin' beans, you...
>
>wow!
>
>oh, I'm sorry...
>
>(ape)
>
>...loosen up!
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[> Should be "The apparition of *these* faces in the crowd", I'm afraid. Can't see an easy fix. -- Richard G, 01:33:56 10/09/02 Wed
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THE RESULTS -- Larry Brash, 08:05:11 10/08/02 Tue

Sorry, I should posted this last night, but a certain person inspired me to have some fun and do some anagrams.

We had 38 voters; best yet in the Forum.

You will find the results on THE RESULTS PAGE

Larry
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[> Re: THE RESULTS Well done,as usual ... -- Zoran, 09:37:41 10/08/02 Tue


Congrats to the winners and thanks for all who voted
for me.My first win in RUDE category and +10 points is
surely nice surprise.I am specially glad that I was
winner in spite of Grantham-Kraus "terror"!

My personal favourite was "Captain James Cook = I am ocean's top Jack !" but it took 2nd place,after Richard's funny anagram about Bush.One thing I can not understand
is my continuously failures in gen.category.Six times
I took 1st place in other categories,but the best result ever in gen.category was 4th place !New challenge for me ...

Keep up the good work !

Zoran
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[> Re: THE RESULTS . -- Mattias Inghe, 10:21:42 10/08/02 Tue

Lots of contributors and lots of voters. Itīs the best round Iīve seen so far since I found the forum in May.

Itīs nice to get an award as 2:nd in General, but Iīm still aiming for a 'real' win. Oh well, thereīs always next month... So keep them 'grams coming and keep on NOMming.
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[> Re: Well done to all winners, and a vote of thanks to LB and RG. -- Jaybur, 18:35:51 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> Thanks, Jaybur! And congratulations to all the winners. -- Richard G, 00:17:40 10/09/02 Wed
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[> Re: Good, 38 is a number to go! KUTGW -- Matjaz P., 19:45:20 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Great show, folks, congrats to all :) -- Paul Pan, 00:33:53 10/09/02 Wed
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Online diary = Irony and lie -- Ghud Sariffian, 19:10:33 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [Online diary = Irony and lie] True! Gen nom, Ghud. -- Richard G, 00:21:15 10/09/02 Wed
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The Tequila Sunrise = Liqueur then siesta. -- Richard G, 15:10:00 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Indeed, muchacho! GEN NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 17:57:35 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> Gracias, Paolo. :) -- Richard G, 00:13:42 10/09/02 Wed
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Sex and the City = Sexed NY hit act -- Paul Pan, 22:20:21 10/08/02 Tue
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Geri Haliwell = Girlie? Ah, well... -- Ghud Sariffian, 22:16:37 10/08/02 Tue
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Californian Sushi = I curl no Asian fish = Alias: Incur no fish -- Paul Pan, 20:56:40 10/08/02 Tue
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Californian Sushi = Alias: Incur no fish = I curl no Asian fish -- Paul Pan, 20:53:20 10/08/02 Tue
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Post removed by author's request
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[> Re: An Anagram Poem (submission for competition) Great work, Tony! *Special NOM* and welcome to the Forum. -- Richard G, 13:53:13 10/08/02 Tue

>Poseidon's Spider
[reluctant snip]

Excellent start, Tony! Welcome to the Forum, I believe you're our first New Zealander.

>(c) Tony Follari

Is it OK if we reprint this poem on our website, Tony? We'll reproduce this copyright notice if you like.

And now for the formalities:
Tony Follari =
O, only a flirt.
Tally of iron.
Floor litany.
I fall on Tory.
Loyal, no rift.

[ruder ones follow]
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
Finally root,
if not orally. ;)

---
Richard G
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[> [> Re: An Anagram Poem (submission for competition) Great work, Tony! *Special NOM* and welcome to the Forum. -- Larry Brash, 19:11:11 10/08/02 Tue

>>Poseidon's Spider
>[reluctant snip]
>
>Excellent start, Tony! Welcome to the Forum, I believe
>you're our first New Zealander.
>
>>(c) Tony Follari
>
>Is it OK if we reprint this poem on our website, Tony?
>We'll reproduce this copyright notice if you like.
>
>And now for the formalities:
>Tony Follari =
>O, only a flirt.
>Tally of iron.
>Floor litany.
>I fall on Tory.
>Loyal, no rift.

A loony flirt.
Fart only oil.
I'll fart on Yo.

Welcome, Tony

Larry
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[> [> [> Tony Follari = Flory latino = Finally, toro! -- Paul Pan, 20:14:37 10/08/02 Tue
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Israeli army fires missiles onto a crowd in Gaza = "O, its a sly lie!", "A sad misfire snag" or "Zion war crime" ? -- Paul Pan, 18:40:29 10/08/02 Tue
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Things are not always what they seem = Ah, what we see, 'tis only a strange myth -- Dean Mayer, 03:42:38 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: [Ah, what we see, 'tis only a strange myth] - GEN *NOM* -- Mike Torr, 11:00:27 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> Re: [Ah, what we see, 'tis only a strange myth] - GEN *NOM* - seconded -- Pedt, 18:26:42 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [Ah, what we see, 'tis only a strange myth] Excellent, Dean! -- Richard G, 13:38:02 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> Re: NOM seconded! -- Jaybur, 18:12:34 10/08/02 Tue
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[Singer] Ms Dynamite, Niomi Daley = It is me: and my, I'm one lady! -- Jaybur, 18:06:50 10/08/02 Tue
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Hit on a bellboy ~ in a hotel lobby! -- Mattias Inghe, 09:51:38 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: Hit on a bellboy ~ in a hotel lobby! Ha ha ha! Gen *NOM* (or is it rude?) -- Mike Torr, 11:03:09 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [Hit on a bellboy ~ in a hotel lobby!] Gen is fine by me. -- Richard G, 13:39:44 10/08/02 Tue
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[> LOL! NOM seconded :) -- Paul Pan, 17:56:25 10/08/02 Tue
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[It starts today] Labour Party Conference = A carefree porn club, Tony ;) -- Adrian H, 20:48:16 10/07/02 Mon
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[> [Actually it was last week!] Labour Party Conference = Unenforceable Tory crap -- Adrian H, 20:52:37 10/07/02 Mon
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[> [> Re: Labour Party Conference = Unenforceable Tory crap -- Is this new? If so, definite TOPICAL NOM! -- Mike Torr, 10:58:22 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> [> [Unenforceable Tory crap] Oldy of Mick Tully's, I fear (and at AG, by "unknown"). Sorry. -- Richard G, 13:36:56 10/08/02 Tue
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Geri Halliwell's autobiography 'Geri: Just for the Record' = O, the horror! Feature a really old Spice Girl with big jugs. -- David A. Green, 07:23:53 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: Geri Halliwell's autobiography 'Geri: Just for the Record' = O, the horror! Feature a really old Spice Girl with big jugs. -- Dean Mayer, 07:37:45 10/08/02 Tue

Nice one!

David A Green = derived anag.
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[> [> Re: Geri Halliwell's autobiography 'Geri: Just for the Record' = O, the horror! Feature a really old Spice Girl with big jugs. -- David A. Green, 07:53:33 10/08/02 Tue

>Nice one!
>
>David A Green = derived anag.

Thanks, Dean. And welcome to the forum! It's always good to see new faces.
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[> [> :) Nice one indeed, David. Long nom. -- Richard G, 13:22:26 10/08/02 Tue
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"Waiter - there's a fly in my soup" = Reply is: "You what, man? It's free!" -- Dean Mayer, 07:09:49 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [Reply is: "You what, man? It's free!"] Ha! Gen nom, Dean. -- Richard G, 13:17:53 10/08/02 Tue
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Compliment (RUDE-ish) -- Dean Mayer - honest, 05:40:15 10/08/02 Tue

Erect penis = Peter's nice
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[> Re: Compliment (RUDE-ish) -- Richard G, 13:16:09 10/08/02 Tue

Welcome to the Forum, Dean.

>Erect penis = Peter's nice

Nice indeed (both 'gram and peter), but if you'll excuse the expression it's come up before. ;)

---
RG
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The singer Nelly Furtado = Friendly enough rattles (starlet ?!) -- Zoran, 10:16:27 10/07/02 Mon
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[> Ent/Name nom for "Friendly enough starlet", Zoran. -- Richard G, 12:11:26 10/07/02 Mon
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[> [> Thanks,Richard,I thought that word "starlet" has connection only with actresses -- Zoran, 21:58:56 10/07/02 Mon
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[> [> [> Call it anagrammatic license. ;) Anyway, there's pop stars so why not a "pop starlet"? [+more] -- Richard G, 13:06:48 10/08/02 Tue

At Google:

1130 hits for "pop starlet"
24 for "pop starlet" furtado
4 for "pop starlet nelly furtado"

I think you're safe. :)

---
RG
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DC area shooters = A restored chaos ! -- Zoran, 09:55:19 10/08/02 Tue
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Person dies = Depression -- Mattias Inghe, 06:56:23 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: Person dies = Depression Sad, but true. Gen NOM, Mattias. -- Jaybur, 07:07:55 10/08/02 Tue
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[> [> Re: Person dies = Depression Sad, but true. Gen NOM, Mattias. -- Joe F., 08:04:46 10/08/02 Tue

I was sure I'd seen this before - turns out it's in the AG archives as "depression = person dies". Still, nice rediscovery.
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[> [> [> Re: Person dies = Depression Sad, but true. Gen NOM, Mattias. -- Mattias Inghe, 09:23:23 10/08/02 Tue

>I was sure I'd seen this before - turns out it's in
>the AG archives as "depression = person dies". Still,
>nice rediscovery.

Argh! I guess I didnīt do mah research properly. Oh well... :/
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Fairy tales = are falsity -- Dean Mayer, 07:12:43 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: Fairy tales = are falsity OLD ONE, I'M AFRAID -- Larry Brash, 07:58:13 10/08/02 Tue

Another rediscovery, Dean.

DECEMBER 2001

THE GENERAL CATEGORY

2nd - Lardy Girl with:
Fairy tales ~
are falsity.

As a general rule, if you find a short anagram that seems very apt, like the above, the odds are someone else has also found it.

There are several searchable archives. See the Anagrammy website for details.

Larry
[3122]

[> [> Re: Fairy tales = are falsity OLD ONE, I'M AFRAID -- Dean Mayer, 08:13:09 10/08/02 Tue

Drat and double drat! All I can say is...

One day i'll invent an original anagram...
=
...or variant angle (again) and I yellin' "NOM!"
[3125]

The Forum = Home turf -- Jaybur, 20:02:52 10/06/02 Sun
[3059]

[> Re: The Forum = Home turf [NICE ONE, Janet, and true, too] -- Larry Brash, 21:28:50 10/06/02 Sun
[3061]

[> [> The Forum = Fume, Roth! ;-) -- Joe F., 05:36:17 10/07/02 Mon
[3063]

[> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! ;-) -- Rick Rothstein, 11:32:35 10/07/02 Mon

Is that "Roth" reference supposed to be me? If so, what is it that you are saying?

Rick
[3072]

[> [> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! ;-) -- David Bourke, 19:07:54 10/07/02 Mon

>Is that "Roth" reference supposed to be me? If so,
>what is it that you are saying?
>
>Rick

No, Rick. It is a reference to the Van Halen singer
David Lee Roth's public criticism of Anagram Genius,
alt.anagrams, and now The Anagrammy Forum for
publically suggesting that he engages in Satanism.

db
[3085]

[> [> [> [> [> Evil, indeed :) -- Paul Pan, 21:45:39 10/07/02 Mon

Fume, Roth = Eft Humor :P
(According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the obsolete noun Eft = malice)
[3091]

[> [> [> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! ;-) -- Rick Rothstein, 00:48:19 10/08/02 Tue

>>Is that "Roth" reference supposed to be me? If so,
>>what is it that you are saying?
>>
>>Rick
>
>No, Rick. It is a reference to the Van Halen singer
>David Lee Roth's public criticism of Anagram Genius,
>alt.anagrams, and now The Anagrammy Forum for
>publically suggesting that he engages in Satanism.
>
>db

Thanks for the clarification... I seem to have missed that particular controversy.

Rick
[3094]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! ;-) -- Larry Brash, 03:07:21 10/08/02 Tue


>Thanks for the clarification... I seem to have missed
>that particular controversy.

Did you know that they took the word "gullible" out of the dictionaries.
=
Hi! Totally fooled, outwitted, hoodwinked Rick Rothstein about guy, eh?

Larry
[3100]

[> [> [> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! ;-) -- Larry Brash, 02:49:55 10/08/02 Tue

>>Is that "Roth" reference supposed to be me? If so,
>>what is it that you are saying?
>>
>>Rick
>
>No, Rick. It is a reference to the Van Halen singer
>David Lee Roth's public criticism of Anagram Genius,
>alt.anagrams, and now The Anagrammy Forum for
>publically suggesting that he engages in Satanism.

Thanks, DB, for .

Alas, it is true:

July 1999
THE PEOPLE'S NAMES CATEGORY

1st - Melody Jonak with:
David Lee Roth =
A red hot devil.

I understand that Mr Roth settled out of court with Ms Jonak for an undisclosed amount and a promise never to post to alt.anagrams again.

Larry
[3099]

[> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! = Me? Fourth!?! ;-) -- Larry Brash, 02:30:08 10/08/02 Tue
[3098]

[> [> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! = Me? Fourth!?! = UHF to R.E.M. ! -- Zoran, 03:14:46 10/08/02 Tue
[3101]

[> [> [> [> [> Re: The Forum = Fume, Roth! = Me? Fourth!?! = UHF to R.E.M. ! = Hut for me. -- matjaz P., 03:20:02 10/08/02 Tue
[3103]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The Forum = FU, Mother! = Mr. 'Hot Feu' = U hot f'r me? -- Paul Pan, 06:03:50 10/08/02 Tue
[3113]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Definitely the most bizarre collection of anagrams in The Forum :- D -- Zoran, 07:35:24 10/08/02 Tue
[3119]

I'm the anagram artist = The grammarian's at it -- Dean Mayer, 05:52:16 10/08/02 Tue
[3112]

The suicide bomber = Me, I butcher bodies Be homicide's brute -- Dean Mayer (I'm flying!!!), 05:37:48 10/08/02 Tue
[3110]

Who's in charge down there? (RUDE) -- Dean Mayer, 05:35:28 10/08/02 Tue

Swollen clitoris = controls willies
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Islamic fundamentalist = Satanic, inflated Muslim -- Dean Mayer, 03:45:29 10/08/02 Tue
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[> Re: Islamic fundamentalist = Satanic, inflated Muslim (Top NOM!) -- Matjaz P., 03:57:49 10/08/02 Tue



Hello, I like your gram!
If you're a new poster to this forum, I welcome you by anagramming your name (if this is your real name):

Dean Mayer =
Any dear me.
Dream a yen.
Ready. Mean.


Cheers, Matjaz.
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[> [> Re: Islamic fundamentalist = Satanic, inflated Muslim (Top NOM!) -- Dean Mayer, 04:08:27 10/08/02 Tue

>Hi Matjaz!
Yes, I'm a newbie (whatever that means), and the name is real - although as a song-writer I sumbit my work to publishers under the pseudonym Ray Meaden.
>
>Hello, I like your gram!
>If you're a new poster to this forum, I welcome you by
>anagramming your name (if this is your real name):
>
>Dean Mayer =
>Any dear me.
>Dream a yen.
>Ready. Mean.
>
>
>Cheers, Matjaz.
[3108]

A well guarded secret... -- Mattias Inghe, 01:01:10 10/08/02 Tue

US senate = USA teens!
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[> ...which explains why Teddy Kennedy still goes to Florida for spring break :P -- Paul Pan, 03:38:54 10/08/02 Tue
[3104]

Nathaniel Adams Coles = So, he is a man called Nat. [Real name of Nat King Cole] -- Jaybur, 18:54:24 10/07/02 Mon
[3083]

[> Re: [Nathaniel Adams Coles = So, he is a man called Nat.] Indeed he is. Name NOM! -- Mattias Inghe, 20:15:52 10/07/02 Mon
[3087]

[> [> Re: Indeed he is. Name NOM! Thank you, Mattias! -- Jaybur, 03:15:19 10/08/02 Tue
[3102]

Schweppes = Specs? Phew. ;) -- Matjaz P., 01:35:51 10/08/02 Tue
[3097]

Pole position = Oops! I line top! -- Matjaz P., 01:29:46 10/08/02 Tue
[3096]

The Bush presidential legacy = He still charge bay, despite UN -- Mattias Inghe, 00:16:38 10/08/02 Tue
[3093]

The flea circus = Act is cheerful -- Adrian H, 20:58:50 10/07/02 Mon
[3090]

CALL FOR GROUP DISCUSSION - Possible change to category. -- Richard G, 03:05:25 10/03/02 Thu

The Long Category has been problematic for some time now, combining as it often does a number of shorter entries unsuccessfully competing against a few longer ones by the usual suspects. :) As such, I'd like to know what people think about possibly lowering the upper limit of Long from 1000 letters to something more modest, and shunting the longer ones directly into Special.

100 letters (with the option of going a bit over if necessary) should be a good boundary IMO. However, many of the current "short long" crop hover in the 40-60 letter region and might still be disadvantaged by any 80+ 'grams that appear. Hopefully this would be only a minor problem.

Another possibility that comes to mind is to alternate between upper limits, i.e. 100 one month and 1000 the next, with longer 'grams produced in a "short" month held over until the next competition (and vice versa). This would alleviate pressure on a fast-overcrowding Special category, but would create problems for the Grand Anagrammy.

The simplest solution would be to create an entire new category, "Medium" perhaps, but this is something we'd aim to avoid.

One last option also addresses the equivalent problem in Special, that short poems tend to be overwhelmed by the longer variety. Alternation would take place as described above but would involve short prose (limit 100) and short rhymes (limit c.150 in order to allow limericks, rubaiyat, good-sized nursery rhymes etc.). Most major genres of anagram would then be catered for without having to add more categories or cause major disruption to Grand Anagrammy voting.

[We could of course allow short prose and short poems to square off every month, but the former would most likely continue to be thrashed.]

Ideally whichever scheme is chosen should come into effect immediately, but if people prefer we can hold it off until either November or the new year.

What does everyone think?

---
RG
[2980]

[> Re: CALL FOR GROUP DISCUSSION - Possible change to category. -- David A. Green, 06:39:10 10/03/02 Thu

Another option might be to slightly increase the upper word limit of the ENT, PEOPLES NAMES & NAMES categories (say to 60 words). This would prevent the mis-matches you speak of in the LONG category without introducing a similar unfairness in the shorter category. Also, it would ensure that a 40-60 word ENT anagram (for example) competed like-for-like against other ENT anagrams.

What happens, though, to 60+ word ENT anagrams? I can see the advantages of a MEDIUM length category, but personally I don't have any problems judging the respective merits of a very long anagram with a much shorter anagram (or a haiku anagram vs a 20-stanza anagram); indeed, my own rule of thumb is to go for the shorter of two anagrams if I can't decide between them on any other basis.

To recap: I suggest we merely increase the upper word count of the smaller categories. The majority of the borderline cases are thereby re-housed in the category to which they belong, and the longer anagrams battle it out!

But it'll be interesting to read other people's thoughts on these matters, and ultimately whatever is decided will be fine by me.
[2981]

[> [> Re: CALL FOR GROUP DISCUSSION - Possible change to category. -- Richard G, 12:38:11 10/03/02 Thu

>[Increasing the limit to 60] would prevent the mis-matches
>you speak of in the LONG category without introducing a
>similar unfairness in the shorter category.

Not a bad idea, David. However, for a long time the upper limit *was* 100 and longer ones still habitually missed out (this time to shorter gems). Besides, arguably there's a bigger difference between 10-15 and 60 letters than there is between 100 and 500+.

>Also, it would ensure that a 40-60 word ENT anagram (for
>example) competed like-for-like against other ENT anagrams.

Good point, I hadn't considered that.

>personally I don't have any problems judging the
>respective merits of a very long anagram with a much
>shorter anagram.

The scope afforded by the longer ones still gives them an unfair advantage come voting time, IMO.

>ultimately whatever is decided will be fine by me.

OK. Thanks, David.

---
RG
[2988]

[> Re: CALL FOR GROUP DISCUSSION - Possible change to category. -- Mike Torr, 18:20:30 10/03/02 Thu

>The Long Category has been problematic for some time
>now, combining as it often does a number of shorter
>entries unsuccessfully competing against a few longer
>ones by the usual suspects. :) As such, I'd like to
>know what people think about possibly lowering the
>upper limit of Long from 1000 letters to something
>more modest, and shunting the longer ones directly
>into Special.
>

I think the main factor affecting creative effort in a Long
or Special anagram is the degree/type of constraints used (e.g.
rhyming etc.)

Whatever is finally decided, If 'heavily-constrained'
anagrams ended up competing with relatively loose ones,
then I think something will have been lost.

>Another possibility that comes to mind is to alternate
>between upper limits, i.e. 100 one month and 1000 the
>next, with longer 'grams produced in a "short" month
>held over until the next competition (and vice versa).
>This would alleviate pressure on a fast-overcrowding
>Special category, but would create problems for the
>Grand Anagrammy.

I'm not sure about alternation. People may find it a
little confusing, although in principle it's an
effective solution.

Good to see that the rules are under active review, that's
one of the signs of a healthy system, Richard!
[2996]

[> Re: CALL FOR GROUP DISCUSSION - Possible change to category. -- Paul Pan, 20:13:25 10/03/02 Thu

I generally concur with the 100-letter cutoff proposal, 'though in practice I doubt any rules could be cast in stone. It feel it would be advisable to rely on ad hoc common sense.
[2997]

[> Re: CALL FOR GROUP DISCUSSION - Possible change to category. -- Adrian H, 01:06:14 10/04/02 Fri

The Long Category has been problematic for some time now, combining as it often does a number of shorter entries unsuccessfully competing against a few longer ones by the usual suspects. :) As such, I'd like to know what people think about possibly lowering the upper limit of Long from 1000 letters to something more modest, and shunting the longer ones directly into Special.

100 letters (with the option of going a bit over if necessary) should be a good boundary IMO. However, many of the current "short long" crop hover in the 40-60 letter region and might still be disadvantaged by any 80+ 'grams that appear. Hopefully this would be only a minor problem.

Another possibility that comes to mind is to alternate between upper limits, i.e. 100 one month and 1000 the next, with longer 'grams produced in a "short" month held over until the next competition (and vice versa). This would alleviate pressure on a fast-overcrowding Special category, but would create problems for the Grand Anagrammy.

The simplest solution would be to create an entire new category, "Medium" perhaps, but this is something we'd aim to avoid.

One last option also addresses the equivalent problem in Special, that short poems tend to be overwhelmed by the longer variety. Alternation would take place as described above but would involve short prose (limit 100) and short rhymes (limit c.150 in order to allow limericks, rubaiyat, good-sized nursery rhymes etc.). Most major genres of anagram would then be catered for without having to add more categories or cause major disruption to Grand Anagrammy voting.

[We could of course allow short prose and short poems to square off every month, but the former would most likely continue to be thrashed.]

Ideally whichever scheme is chosen should come into effect immediately, but if people prefer we can hold it off until either November or the new year.

What does everyone think?

=

Richard (and other intellectual folk who subscribe to this VoyForum)

Re: The problems with, and improvements to, our 'Long' category.

I don't particularly think I should be suggesting an even-handed solution to the problem as it stands, or attempt to come up with some sort of compromise to the schism. Faint hope :) However, I suppose I'm simply in agreement with David A. Green: "ultimately whatever is decided will be fine by me"

As a pointless example of the disparity currently evident, let me quote the two shortest ever 'long' winners (while noting that the longest ever winner contains over one thousand three hundred letters, developed by David Bourke):

Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned? =
So, can he pee on ice and both of gonads not turn blue?
(Richard Brodie)

New Jersey Division of Alcoholic Beverage Control =
So enjoy a cool beer while Driving. Not clever? Fiasco!
(Tom Myers)

The babbling, bumbling, half-baked monologue reply you're currently reading, should some witless fool decide to nominate it forthwith, would immediately go into the 'Special' category (since it contains 1506 letters), but there isn't too much that's special about it. No troublesome pentameter-verse rhyming scheme to adhere to; no grotesque homeomorphic restriction to prosaic octosyllabic words; no amazingly witty, frivolous post about naked sex with a variety of filthy farmyard animals; and only the merest hint of peurile humour.

Pre-supposing that there will be unopposed metamorphosis of this category, when should this new rule become valid? We should postpone it until after the New Year, so that the Grand Anagrammies are unaffected.

Moreover, why not introduce a few new awards?
Parallelograms
Thermograms
Portmanteau-grams
Telegrams
Mammograms
Spectrograms
Holograms

Adrian - Gobbledegook spokesperson (brilliant use of twenty-odd leftover letters!)
[2998]

[> [> Ha! Let Richard decide if this should be a SPAM NOM (no offense, RG!), a LONG NOM or a SPECIAL NOM? :P -- Paul Pan, 01:47:44 10/04/02 Fri
[3002]

[> [> [> SPECIAL NOM it is. Cleverly done, Adrian. -- Richard G, 15:01:04 10/06/02 Sun
[3050]

[> [> [> [> [SPECIAL NOM it is.] Cheers, PP & RG. One spelling error : peurile -> puerile -- Adrian H, 20:01:34 10/07/02 Mon
[3086]

[> Re: CALL FOR GROUP DISCUSSION - is usurping, so call for Doc. ;) -- Matjaz P., 05:09:11 10/04/02 Fri
[3004]

Is Henman set for glory? = Gosh! My tennis, for real? -- Jaybur, 18:56:30 10/07/02 Mon
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