Anagrammy Forum Archives - #37

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Mish-mash of unrelated 'grams... [one rude] -- Jesse F, 08:51:22 01/15/03 Wed

Tennis racket = Can strike net?

Portuguese Language = Tongue usage? Plug ear!

Double-jointed = O, belted in judo?

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o
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Impotent male = Note limp meat.
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[> **Some more, roughly about sports...** -- Jesse Frankovich, 10:30:00 01/16/03 Thu

"There is no 'I' in 'team'" ~ or 'hate' in 'enmities'

"One game at a time" = Animate team ego?

Precise team = Masterpiece.

Bunker trap = Er, bankrupt?
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[> [> [Precise team = Masterpiece] makes perfect sense. Gen NOM. -- Mattias Inghe, 02:08:32 01/17/03 Fri

>"There is no 'I' in 'team'" ~ or 'hate' in 'enmities'
>
>"One game at a time" = Animate team ego?
>
>Precise team = Masterpiece.
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[> [> [> Gen NOM... Thanks, Mattias. -- Jesse, 02:23:43 01/17/03 Fri
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[> Rude NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 22:15:20 01/16/03 Thu

Impotent male = Note limp meat.
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[> [> Nice, but I've posted the same 'gram about half a year ago... -- Mey K., 21:18:09 01/17/03 Fri

>Impotent male = Note limp meat.
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[> [> [> Ah! Now I know why it seemed familiar :p -- Paul Pan, 21:22:46 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> [> Sorry, Mey. Though... I searched but could not find any to match. -- Jesse F., 12:13:33 01/18/03 Sat
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[> [> [> [> Sorry again, just found it in Forum archives! Cheers - -- Jesse F, 12:18:55 01/18/03 Sat
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Some dames (some rude) -- Mattias Inghe, 10:49:14 01/18/03 Sat

Marie Antoinette = I, neat marionette

Judy Garland = Darn jug lady.

Marilyn Monroe = In my Norma-role

Queen Cleopatra = A eloquence part

Dorothy L Sayers = Oh, read sly story

Birgitte Bardot = Do it, tit grabber!
(or worse:)
Birgitte Bardot = Grab rod, bite it.
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the trouble makers = to them: break rules -- A. Sadali, 06:48:13 01/18/03 Sat
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request for sentence 'gram category -- Tom Myers, 08:29:54 01/15/03 Wed

The number of quality sentence 'grams has been steadily increasing, and seems to be at a level which would support a category. Two reasons were given the last time someone suggested this, 1) not enough sentence 'grams, and 2) too much work. One of the excuses for taking the Anagramys to this slow and inconvienient Voy Forum, was somewhat automating the nom process. So that should take care of # 2 also.
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[> Re: request for sentence 'gram category. GROUP COMMENTS WELCOME -- Larry Brash, 13:36:48 01/15/03 Wed

>The number of quality sentence 'grams has been
>steadily increasing, and seems to be at a level which
>would support a category. Two reasons were given the
>last time someone suggested this, 1) not enough
>sentence 'grams, and 2) too much work. One of the
>excuses for taking the Anagramys to this slow and
>inconvienient Voy Forum, was somewhat automating the
>nom process. So that should take care of # 2 also.

Your suggestion is certainly worth serious consideration.

Sentence length anagrams often fall into that dead space of being too long for the short categoies (ie over 40 letters), or totally swamped by the long ones found in Spam, Long and Special.

There are several exponents of this mid-length anagram, sentence genre, including yourself, Richard Brodie, David Green and Adrian Hickford, and I'm sure many others of us if this size category existed.

As we have a new year starting, this is the time to start (or reorganise) a category.

What does everyone think about this?

Larry
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[> [> Sentence-length category and another idea... -- Jesse F, 14:45:48 01/15/03 Wed

>Sentence length anagrams often fall into that dead
>space of being too long for the short categoies (ie
>over 40 letters), or totally swamped by the long ones
>found in Spam, Long and Special.

I agree that anagrams of 40-100 letters or so can't really (and maybe shouldn't) compete with the more traditional Long entries. So I would vote in favor of making some sort of 'sentence' or 'medium' category.

Meanwhile, I have another proposition: if we add this new category, should we consider lumping Spam into Long and Special? This would increase the number of entries each month in the latter and make for better competition (IMO, you would like to have 4 or more nominees in each category). I know there must still be some spam die-hards out there like Larry and Mey, but it seems to me that even without it being a separate category, people could still write award-winning Long/Special grams based on the spam premise. I only suggest this because of the seemingly dwindling number of spam entries (and thus weak voting contests) and also the earlier condensation of ShorterSpam and LongSpam to JustSpam. Why not just have one Long category, independent of subject matter? Thus we would have 3 lengths: short, medium, and long, of which only Short ones were subdivided into 6 categories. And Special is just Special of course!

Any rare short spam could be absorbed by General or Topical, and perhaps even more likely, by Rude. :)

>There are several exponents of this mid-length
>anagram, sentence genre, including yourself, Richard
>Brodie, David Green and Adrian Hickford, and I'm sure
>many others of us if this size category existed.

Back to the medium grams, I agree that plenty of entries would be submitted... I know if this existed I would try for a few each month. It also might encourage people (new and old) to try their hand at something longer without feeling they have to make something really Long or Special.

Cheers,

Jesse
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[> [> [> Re: Sentence-length category and another idea... -- Tom Myers, 15:01:49 01/15/03 Wed

Actually I meant anagrams where the subject and anagram formed a single sentence

The hunt for Osama bin Laden ~ has not found the lamebrain.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Sentence-length category and another idea... -- Jesse F, 15:18:16 01/15/03 Wed

>Actually I meant anagrams where the subject and
>anagram formed a single sentence
>
>The hunt for Osama bin Laden ~ has not found the
>lamebrain.

Ha! This is what I originally thought you meant... I only thought otherwise based on the other comments. Oh well!

Hmmm... I don't think those type warrant their own category. Many of them (as your example) don't NEED to be written that way, they just read better than they would with an equals sign. Some people probably don't even notice the difference.

Jesse
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[> [> [> Re: Sentence-length category and another idea... -- Richard G, 15:40:55 01/15/03 Wed

LB wrote:
>>Sentence length anagrams often fall into that dead
>>space of being too long for the short categoies (ie
>>over 40 letters), or totally swamped by the long ones
>>found in Spam, Long and Special.

I think Tom means 'grams making up two halves of a sentence, connected by a tilde. (Is this correct, Tom?) In which case I'd dispute that there's cause for a new category, since only a few of this genre have been nommed so far this month - only two of which are 100% grammatically correct sentences anyway.

As for sentence-*length* anagrams, yes - a category to cater for them is overdue. We could add this category outright if people like (up from 14 to 15 a month, still reasonable), or as Jesse suggested we could replace an existing one - more below.

JF2 wrote [with snippage]:
>I would vote in favor of making some sort of 'sentence'
>or 'medium' category. If we add this new category, should
>we consider lumping Spam into Long and Special? I know
>there must still be some spam die-hards out there like
>Larry and Mey, but it seems to me that even without it
>being a separate category, people could still write
>award-winning Long/Special grams based on the spam
>premise. Thus we would have 3 lengths: short, medium,
>and long, of which only Short ones were subdivided into
>6 categories.

Something like this was very much in my mind as well. Larry has publically stated his reluctance to go without a dedicated Spam category, however, and I know others also have reservations. Shall we vote on it?

>Back to the medium grams, I agree that plenty of
>entries would be submitted... I know if this existed I
>would try for a few each month. It also might
>encourage people (new and old) to try their hand at
>something longer without feeling they have to make
>something really Long or Special.

Spam used to fill this void, providing a launching pad to bigger things in several cases (including Mey and myself). Not so much these days, it seems - and I agree with Jesse, it's quite likely that medium would do the job.

Any thoughts?

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RG
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[> [> [> [> Re: Sentence-length category and another idea... -- Tom Myers, 16:36:04 01/15/03 Wed

>I think Tom means 'grams making up two halves of a
>sentence, connected by a tilde. (Is this correct,
>Tom?) In which case I'd dispute that there's cause for
>a new category, since only a few of this genre have
>been nommed so far this month - only two of which are
>100% grammatically correct sentences anyway.
>


It is less than half way through the month, so that averages at least 4. I have noticed quite a few nice sentence grams in Alt.anagrams lately also. There was at least one month early on where there were only three nominations in special, and yet you gave away three anagrammies for that category. That category is a great example of how having a category attracts more anagrams of that type.

If they are rare, then they are hard work. The justification for giving 3 specials was that they are hard work, that category has often been dominated by just one or two people.
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[> [> [> [> Re: Sentence-length category and another idea... -- Hans-Peter, 19:45:45 01/15/03 Wed

I like the idea of tilde-grams, could give a boost to this genre.
I also would like to see a 'short'-category (maybe <= 10 letters), maybe instead of the 'Spam'-category.

Just my 2 cents.

HaPe
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[> [> [> [> Re: Sentence-length category and another idea... -- Richard Brodie, 13:22:47 01/16/03 Thu

Larry's entry in last month's Special certainly proved that Spam is capable of prevailing in that category vis-a-vis traditional entries that involve constraints.
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[> [> I feel thrilled as I say ~ "this idea really flies"! -- Paul, 18:24:57 01/15/03 Wed
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[> [> [> Re: I feel thrilled as I say ~ "this idea really flies"! *Nom General or sentence -- Tom Myers, 18:46:20 01/15/03 Wed

Great one Paul, it would stand alone beautifully, but really fits the bill here!!!
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[> [> [> [> LOL! Thanks, I was just being silly :P -- Paul Pan, 19:26:39 01/15/03 Wed
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[> [> Re: request for sentence 'gram category. OH DEAR -- Larry Brash, 20:37:49 01/15/03 Wed

I'm afraid I have misinterpreted Tom's post. I thought he meant a sentence length anagram, but it seems he meant the subject and anagram forming a sentence.

Unfortunately, my comments have provoked an angry email from Tom and a withdrawal from any further participation in the awards.

This is a pity as Tom is an excellent anagrammatist and only 12 hours before I told him, "great to see you posting to the Forum".

Larry
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[> [> [> Tom Myers = Stormy me :P -- Paul Pan, 23:32:13 01/15/03 Wed
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[> [> [> [> Re: Tom Myers = Stormy me :P -- Joe F., 07:17:59 01/17/03 Fri

> Tom Myers = Stormy me :P

:) I'm almost tempted to NOM this, it's very apt. Go on then, Name/Top NOM if you like.

No doubt he is a great anagrammatist, but in all honesty I never got on with him: I may as well speak truthfully. Being half Iraqi, I'm sure you can imagine how some of his anagrams have upset me, but I just ignore such posts.

Oh well, that's life. NOM for Paul was the main point of this post.

JF
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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Tom Myers = Stormy me :P -- Richard G, 12:10:09 01/17/03 Fri

>> Tom Myers = Stormy me :P
>
>:) I'm almost tempted to NOM this, it's very apt. Go
>on then, Name/Top NOM if you like.
>
>No doubt he is a great anagrammatist, but in all
>honesty I never got on with him: I may as well speak
>truthfully. Being half Iraqi, I'm sure you can imagine
>how some of his anagrams have upset me, but I just
>ignore such posts.
>
>Oh well, that's life. NOM for Paul was the main point
>of this post.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Joe. However, and I hate to bring it up after such a post, I'm afraid the TM 'gram isn't new.

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RG
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[> [> Re: request for sentence 'gram category. GROUP COMMENTS WELCOME -- Wordminer, 01:57:45 01/16/03 Thu

>As we have a new year starting, this is the time to
>start (or reorganise) a category.

If the subject of categories is wide open,
there are a lot of possibilities.
Let me toss a few out:

Specialized categories (e.g., proverbs, geographic names, book titles, spelled out dates, etc.). To avoid cluttering the voting page, these could rotate through one slot of the categories and the NOM's could accumulate during 'off' months.

I see from the archives that there were "Challenge" contests where everyone tries the same phrase. These could be done on short ones, too. There are two cases of great difficulty: one where there are very few words and one where there are too many (such as "the quick runner" and "Main Street, heart of the city".)
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[> [> [> Re: request for sentence 'gram category. GROUP COMMENTS WELCOME -- Richard G, 12:44:02 01/17/03 Fri

>Specialized categories (e.g., proverbs, geographic
>names, book titles, spelled out dates, etc.). To
>avoid cluttering the voting page, these could rotate
>through one slot of the categories and the NOM's could
>accumulate during 'off' months.

Oddly, something like that has already come up - the idea of setting a different challenge each month (not restricted to a single text).

>I see from the archives that there were "Challenge"
>contests where everyone tries the same phrase. These
>could be done on short ones, too.

Not too short, unlikely to dip below 30 or even 40 letters (too few gems exist otherwise). Unless we were to allow people to pick from a variety of related texts - such as the various ways of addressing everyone's favourite C student:

[President/US President] [George/G] [W/Walker/Dubya] Bush

Didn't mention it at the time because I'd just done a Bushagram that generated some very favourable comments (thanks again!) and didn't want to make self-serving suggestions. But it's a thought for later.

I should also mention that Larry and I would be disinclined to go over 15 awards per month (currently 14), so as not to overload the voters - not to mention ourselves. [So much for not being self-serving. :) ]

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RG
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[> [> [> [> Re: Specialized categories -- Wordminer, 06:35:31 01/18/03 Sat

> Not too short, unlikely to dip below 30 or even 40 letters (too few gems exist otherwise). Unless we were to allow people to pick from a variety of related texts - such as the various ways of addressing everyone's favourite C student:
>[President/US President] [George/G] [W/Walker/Dubya] Bush

A "theme" is a good alternative to a fixed text, but even with some very short texts there are lots of possibilities. To take extreme examples:
POST = OPTS = STOP = POTS = SPOT = TOPS
EAST = SEAT = TEAS = SATE
Just those two words yield 24 'grams, even without mixing the letters. So a short phrase that includes such words has lots of permutations (although, by definition, the gems would be relatively rare).

At Wordsmith, "George W Bush" generates on the order of 700 variations, (most no good), so a few more letters and you get thousands to choose from.

>I should also mention that Larry and I would be
>disinclined to go over 15 awards per month (currently
>14), so as not to overload the voters - not to mention
>ourselves. [So much for not being self-serving. :) ]
>RG

The obvious solution to that is to have different categories each month. For instance, the Spam, Long, and Special categories could take turns if the number of entries is low enough. (Spam is already a specialized category and rarity would make Special more so.) Similarly, the Names and Other Names categories could alternate.

The postings could continue as they are now, but there would be extra administrative overhead to accumulate them and keep the ballot straight. It could be a little confusing at first, but eventually it would become familiar.

The idea of specialized categories is to introduce an extra element of competition. With 'open' categories, 'grams that are not comparable are pitted against each other. That could happen with specialized categories, but to a lesser extent.

In any case, a little variety would make things more interesting.
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[> Re: I think the idea of sentence 'gram category is great. why not? -- A. Sadali, 21:04:41 01/15/03 Wed
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[> NEW Thoughts on sentence-STYLE "tildegrams" -- Jesse F, 06:49:55 01/16/03 Thu

Upon further reflection, I have a number of additional thoughts on the "tildegram" concept. At first I did not believe it warranted its own category; why should a good political entry, say, not compete with other topical ones just because it uses a tilde? Are such anagrams significantly different in nature from the others?

Then I thought, maybe they are...
The question is, do we know what the hallmarks of a good tildegram are? We have said that a good anagram should have a recognizable subject that isn't too tweaked. Are these sentence grams, then, just lower-quality ones?... ex: you can't find a good gram for "xyz" so you try "xyz is really... ~"

And, if so, is that good or bad? Maybe it IS a skill worthy of competition to create such entries.

But, some sentence grams seem to work like this: "xyz" itself has a verb like "is, has, are, etc" WITHIN it, and so the subject-half is actually unmodified, as we would wish it. Should this 'better' kind stay in the normal categories? Ex: "The search for Osama Bin Laden ~ has not fould the lamebrain" ... the 'has' is after the tilde, not put in front just to get some more letters to play with.

I'm also wondering if this category would become a kind of "best of the rest" category... maybe people would tweak a tilde into a 'gram they liked, but which they already had another stronger NOM in that subject-matter category.

Sorry to ramble on... just wanted to throw some ideas out there and encourage more brainstorming on the tildegram concept, good or bad. I think it could prove to make for interesting competition. And I suppose that if instituted, we could always banish it later if we did come across some major flaw with it, or there just weren't enough entries. After all "anagram set" once existed and is now defunct.

Also, I'm wondering how difficult the whole process would be for Larry and Richard to modify the category system, in the event that we were to all agree on any changes.

Jesse
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[> [> The 'grams with a tilde = That 'widgle' has merit? :) -- Jesse F, 07:03:31 01/16/03 Thu
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[> [> Even racists hates ~ The Satanic Verses -- Mattias Inghe, 21:43:24 01/16/03 Thu

Is this a tilde-, or a Other-gram?
What I mean is, too many categories makes for too many ambvivalent grams. I vote for keeping things simple.

But then again. Another chance to get a nom. ;)

/M
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[> [> Re: Longish reply -- Richard G, 13:35:28 01/17/03 Fri

[snippage]
>The question is, do we know what the hallmarks of a
>good tildegram are? We have said that a good anagram
>should have a recognizable subject that isn't too
>tweaked. Are these sentence grams, then, just
>lower-quality ones?... ex: you can't find a good gram
>for "xyz" so you try "xyz is really... ~"

I would argue that such contrived 'grams are indeed of lower quality, as I know many others would. IMO it compromises the coincidence that gives a 'gram its value.

>And, if so, is that good or bad? Maybe it IS a skill
>worthy of competition to create such entries.

Finding additions that neatly complement a text (whether to form a sentence or not) is a skill all right, I tried it for ages and it ain't easy. But speaking from personal experience, anagramming got a whole lot less frustrating when I stopped trying to massage almost-'grams into existence and moved on to a different subject instead whenever I got stuck.

>But, some sentence grams seem to work like this: "xyz"
>itself has a verb like "is, has, are, etc" WITHIN it,
>and so the subject-half is actually unmodified, as we
>would wish it. Should this 'better' kind stay in the
>normal categories? Ex: "The search for Osama Bin
>Laden ~ has not fould the lamebrain" ... the 'has' is
>after the tilde, not put in front just to get some
>more letters to play with.

Really depends how many there are, and current levels aren't enough to sustain a category. Mind you, there would of course be a "build it and they will come" effect, as has often happened with the Grammies in the past. But in this case it would be tempered by the fact that such 'grams are (in my experience, anyway) more accidental than deliberate, i.e. the structure comes as an afterthought (and should IMO be treated as such where it comes to the allocation of categories).

>I'm also wondering if this category would become a
>kind of "best of the rest" category... maybe people
>would tweak a tilde into a 'gram they liked, but which
>they already had another stronger NOM in that
>subject-matter category.

Hmm, interesting point.

>Also, I'm wondering how difficult the whole process
>would be for Larry and Richard to modify the category
>system, in the event that we were to all agree on any
>changes.

Not difficult at all, pretty much just a matter of re-categorising the current month's noms and adding extra columns to tables here and there. And Larry making a new .gif or two for the voting page.

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RG
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Pubs 'n' bars = Bass 'n' burp! [Bass Ale] -- Jaybur, 20:47:51 01/17/03 Fri
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[> A Wetherspoon pub = Now sup at beer-shop -- AH, 21:20:13 01/17/03 Fri
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[> Re: Pubs 'n' bars = Bass 'n' burp! Cheers, Janet! GEN/OTHER N0m :) -- Paul Pan, 21:26:07 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> Re: GEN/OTHER N0M :) Thanks, Paul! -- Jaybur, 01:08:34 01/18/03 Sat
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[> [> [> Re: 'Pubs 'n' Bars' was an actual headline in an on-line News section! -- Jaybur, 01:12:10 01/18/03 Sat
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Bubonic plague ~ on a pubic bulge -- Paul Pan, 21:44:13 01/17/03 Fri

"Bubonic" is derived from the Greek *Boubon* meaning "a swelling in the groin". (Oxford English Dictionary II)
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[> [Bubonic plague ~ on a pubic bulge] *GEN NOM* -- Richard G, 22:43:42 01/17/03 Fri

>"Bubonic" is derived from the Greek *Boubon* meaning "a
>swelling in the groin". (Oxford English Dictionary II)

Yep, I remember learning about buboes and other symptoms of plague in ninth grade History. Best lecture ever. :)

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RG
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[> [> Ta, RG, though it wont even get *my* vote during the 'grammies :P -- Paul Pan, 23:44:36 01/17/03 Fri

>Yep, I remember learning about buboes and other
>symptoms of plague in ninth grade History. Best
>lecture ever. :)

Oh the fun we all had in 9th grade. I remember coming up with my very first anagram back then in Math (matrix = rat mix), much to the horror o Teach.
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There is no God but Allah -- Richard G, 14:01:46 01/17/03 Fri

There is no God but Allah, and Mohammad is His prophet.
=
To uphold Islam's paradigm, do then abhor heathenism.

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RG
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[> Re: There is no God but Allah *NOM* RG! -- Jaybur, 18:59:47 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> Thanks, Jaybur. -- Richard G, 22:21:53 01/17/03 Fri
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Eliminate PC errors instantly! = Contrarily, Internet spam lies! -- Adrian H, 20:12:16 01/17/03 Fri
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[> Re:Contrarily, Internet spam lies! Too true! *NOM* , AH! -- Jaybur, 20:46:13 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> [Too true! *NOM* , AH!] Thanks, Janet. -- AH, 21:16:47 01/17/03 Fri
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abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz = FOX TV DJ-quiz: Why beg Mrs Planck? -- Paul Pan, 02:38:44 01/17/03 Fri
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[> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz [Quasi politically incorrect] -- Paul Pan, 03:00:20 01/17/03 Fri

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
=
GHQ bevy jinx-up F.D.R.'s mock-waltz!

("Mock-Waltz" is slightly non-PC given the fact that Roosevelt was handicapped)

Definition:
GHQ = General Headquarters
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[> Nice PAN-gram, Paul. -- Wordminer, 07:53:35 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> Thanks! Pangrams are really fun ;) -- Paul Pan, 19:31:10 01/17/03 Fri
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[> Yet another Pangram - GHQ pawns vex, blitz mucky fjord -- Paul Pan, 19:29:56 01/17/03 Fri
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[> Rude pangram -- Paul Pan, 20:22:42 01/17/03 Fri

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz = VD jinx zaps womb? Try "HQ Fuck Gel"!

Where HQ could stand for "Hindquarters"
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Professor Ferdinand Porsche = So find son preferred posh car. -- Jaybur, 19:54:30 01/15/03 Wed
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[> Professor Ferdinand Porsche = He finds car for poor spenders [He also designed the original VW beetle] -- Paul Pan, 20:26:17 01/15/03 Wed
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[> [> [He finds car for poor spenders] *NOM* Very neat! Trouble is, in the Archive it'll look like an antigram. :P -- Richard G, 11:23:52 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> [> Thanks RG! Yep, I fear very few will get it ;) -- Paul Pan, 18:16:09 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> [> The very first Porsche was produced in 1948 by Prof. Ferdinand Porsche, and his son 'Ferry' Porsche, hence my original 'gram! -- Jaybur, 18:55:11 01/17/03 Fri
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Captain Cooks' 'The Resolution' = Lookout on ship: see Antarctic! -- Jaybur, 21:56:41 01/15/03 Wed
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[> Great, Janet .*NOM* -- AH, 03:27:39 01/16/03 Thu
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[> [> Re: Thanks, Adrian! 'The Resolution' was the first ship to sail into the Antarctic Circle, on January 17, 1773. -- Jaybur, 18:38:58 01/17/03 Fri
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Daytime television show = "Hey, I made love to twin sis!" -- Jesse Frankovich, 06:45:14 01/15/03 Wed
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[> Hahaha very true! Gen / Ent NOM. -- Joe F., 07:03:38 01/15/03 Wed
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[> [> Re: Ent NOM, Thanks, JF1! -- JF2, 07:09:05 01/15/03 Wed
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[> Daytime television show = The view on measly idiots. -- Hans-Peter, 17:25:32 01/17/03 Fri
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Morning star = Not Mars! (*grin*) -- Hans-Peter, 04:07:26 01/16/03 Thu
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[> The evening star ~ venerates night. -- Hans-Peter, 04:50:02 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [Morning star = Not Mars! (*grin*)] Ha! Cleverly put. *GEN/OTHER NOM* -- Richard G, 11:58:59 01/17/03 Fri
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[> [> [*GEN/OTHER NOM*] Thanks Richard. -- Hans-Peter, 16:53:10 01/17/03 Fri
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Re: [Dow loses = So we sold] Belated NOM for Jesse, just found this one from a while back. -- Richard G, 13:41:19 01/17/03 Fri

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TV one-worders -- Mattias Inghe, 02:29:15 01/17/03 Fri

Television = Novelise it!

Broadcasting = Sad boring act

Nickelodeon = Clone one kid

Discovery = Cry 'Videos!'
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[> Re: TV one-worders *NOM* -- Richard G, 11:54:34 01/17/03 Fri

>Broadcasting = Sad boring act

And ain't that the truth. *GEN/ENT NOM*

---
RG
[5674]
in choco names (nt) -- Nico, 00:48:01 01/17/03 Fri

hello,

hereby my modest contribution to this anagramsite

greetings Nico Schoeman
--
Posted using Sater anagram checker v. 5.0 (online)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~onnoz/maanrag/sater.html
[5654]

[> Re: in choco names (nt) -- Paul Pan, 00:59:18 01/17/03 Fri

Welcome.
Nico Schoeman
=
Chosen Monica
Nice macho son
No man's choice
No cash income
[5655]

[> [> Re: in choco names -- Richard G, 11:47:37 01/17/03 Fri

>Welcome.
>Nico Schoeman
=
So, no mechanic?
I'm a conch-nose. :P

---
RG
[5673]
Citroen Xsara = O, extras in car. -- Hans-Peter, 16:44:09 01/16/03 Thu
[5644]

[> [O, extras in car.] Yep! *OTHER NAMES NOM*, Hans-Peter. -- Richard G, 11:42:25 01/17/03 Fri
[5672]
The Fourth Color Atlas and Text of Diagnostic Microbiology = The glossary tour of toxic mold, foot itch, and bacteria lingo. -- Jesse F, 10:15:18 01/16/03 Thu

Oops!
[5639]

[> Eew. :) LONG NOM! -- Richard G, 11:39:10 01/17/03 Fri
[5671]
Just dug this one up from my files, didn't post it first time -- Joe F., 08:40:41 01/16/03 Thu

The United States Of America = The art is 'Automatic Defense'!

JF
[5637]

[> Re: Just dug this one up from my files, didn't post it first time -- Richard G, 11:36:50 01/17/03 Fri

>The United States Of America = The art is 'Automatic
>Defense'!

'Automatic Defense' is threat?

---
RG
[5670]
New section of the website: Best of the Rest -- Richard G, 11:58:43 01/13/03 Mon

Over the last coupla months, I've gone back through the Archives and picked out 340-odd brilliant anagrams that nevertheless failed to pick up Awards. Along with a few dozen of my own that Larry and Mey subsequently selected for inclusion, these now form the Best of the Rest Archive. The archive is set out like the Hall of Fame, but with a separate page for rude 'grams.

Far and away the biggest contributor is one Meyran Kraus, with 74 entries - almost twice as many as the next contributor. Whether this means Mey is the best anagrammatist or merely the biggest loser is a matter of opinion. ;)

If you should happen to be browsing through the Nominations Archive and find a 'gram that you think deserved to be in the BOTR, please mention it to us and we'll consider including it. (Ditto if you think a dud has slipped through the net, or if you think a 'gram should be recategorised as rude or non-rude.)

Enjoy!

---
RG
[5510]

[> Re: [New section of the website: Best of the Rest] Great! Thanks for all your work on that, Richard. -- Jaybur, 01:44:19 01/15/03 Wed
[5545]

[> [> I agree, three cheers for RG :) -- Paul Pan, 02:52:34 01/15/03 Wed
[5553]

[> [> [> Thanks everyone! And please do feel free to make suggestions for the BOTR. -- Richard G, 11:18:24 01/17/03 Fri
[5668]

[> Re: [New section of the website] -- Mey K., 08:27:26 01/15/03 Wed


>Over the last coupla months, I've gone back through
>the Archives and picked out 340-odd brilliant anagrams
>that nevertheless failed to pick up Awards. Along with
>a few dozen of my own that Larry and Mey subsequently
>selected for inclusion,

Would've been a few more dozens if you didn't butt in. ;)

>Far and away the biggest contributor is one Meyran
>Kraus, with 74 entries - almost twice as many as the
>next contributor. Whether this means Mey is the best
>anagrammatist or merely the biggest loser is a matter
>of opinion. ;)

Alas, my life supply way too much evidence to supports the latter option...

>these now form the Best
of the Rest Archive. The archive is set out like
the Hall of Fame, but with a separate page for rude
'grams.

Nice touch on the Hall of Fame similarity. I second the other comments - Great work!

Mey
[5581]
Ezechukwu replies! -- Larry Brash, 02:42:32 01/17/03 Fri

I sent my long spamagram to the Nigerian spammer last month, and Paul Pan here asked if I got a reply. It finally arrived today.

Ezechukwu Associates wrote:
>
> Dear Brash
>
> How are you and how is everything? Hopw all is well wit you?. Get back to me with the position of things and what i requested from you, cos i just got approval on your name, asking me to present you as the next of kin to late Mr David Brash.

My reply:

Did you actually read my last email?

It was a joke, a sarcastic parody on Nigerian scams. What you probably didn't realise was that it was an anagram of your email. I took all the letters of your email and rearranged them into a witty reply. It is my hobby. All my anagramming friends thought it was hilarious.

Normally, I just delete the dozens of these Nigerian spams that I get regularly, but yours amused me, as my late father (not my uncle) was named David Brash, and I thought I would have some fun with you.

You don't honestly think that I believed what you were offering? Do people actually fall these things?

Anyway, thanks for the offer, but NO THANK YOU. However, thanks for amusing me.

Larry Brash
[5662]

[> ROTFL! Thans for sharing Larry. The joke's on Mr Ezechukwu ! -- Paul Pan, 03:10:08 01/17/03 Fri
[5664]
Aston Martin DB = Am Bond transit -- Paul Pan, 21:04:20 01/16/03 Thu
[5646]

[> [Aston Martin DB = Am Bond transit] Very nice, Other Names NOM. -- Jesse F, 02:22:24 01/17/03 Fri
[5657]

[> [> Thanks! -- Paul Pan, 02:40:31 01/17/03 Fri
[5661]
Victoria's Secret, corrected [obviously naughty!] -- Paul Pan, 00:45:58 01/17/03 Fri

Victoria's Secret
=
I cover & caress tit
Scar site? Cover it!
It covers, it cares!
Covers ace tit, sir
I caress erotic TV [transvestite]
Active corset, sir!
Erotic star's vice
Over-ecstatic, sir!
Active escort, sir!
Actress? I cover it!
Visit escort care
It: Ass-corrective
Covers tits. I care!
Escort ties vicar ~ So, vicar, it's erect?
[5653]
Victoria's Secret [obviously naughty!] -- Paul Pan, 00:14:36 01/17/03 Fri

Victoria's Secret
=
I service scrota
I caress & cover it
So, vicar is erect!
I cover scar site
Ass-corrective, I
I cover arse-cist
I...I crave corsets
I've erotic scars
I service actors
Erotic caves, sir!
Races, victories
I, Socratic verse
Erotic raves (sic)
Erect Savior (sic)
Erect, I savor (sic)
[5651]

[> Sorry folks, they are all wrong, please disregard :( -- Paul Pan, 00:19:13 01/17/03 Fri
[5652]
The Satanic Bible ~ isn't ethical, babe -- Paul Pan, 21:59:39 01/16/03 Thu
[5649]
Analyze that! = A hazy talent -- Paul Pan, 21:17:41 01/16/03 Thu
[5647]
Attain Mr Bond's ~Aston Martin DB -- Paul Pan, 21:03:12 01/16/03 Thu
[5645]
Maurice Ernest Gibb -- Wayne Baisley, 13:06:23 01/16/03 Thu

Big secret -- I'm urbane.
Big ten music-bearer
Entire music be garb.
I beget barren music.
Me, recruiting babes
Music beat be erring.
Music bet: Big earner
N.B. I regret mic abuse.
Neat music gibberer
Retire music. Beg ban.

Cheers,
Wayne
[5642]
'Nirvanagram' - part-by-part paraphrase of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" -- Jesse Frankovich, 15:13:38 01/13/03 Mon

The following is a re-working of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" from their album "Nevermind."

Each PART (title, verses, chorus - separated by the table cells) is anagrammed into a counterpart.

Original song is in yellow, anagrammed parts in pink. (I hope the HTML works properly...)

Smells Like Teen Spirit
-Nirvana

 Tastes Like Liver, Man
-Inner Lips
Load up on guns and bring your friends
It's fun to lose and to pretend
She's over-bored and self-assured
Oh no, I know a dirty word		 Draw your pistols, get your buds
It's grand to invent and be a dud
Her fashion's dull and error-proof
OK, send nonsense end: 'I woof!'
With the light out, it's less dangerous
Here we are now, entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now, entertain us
A mulatto, an albino, a mosquito
My libido		 With no color, it's not so ominous
Generate the interest with us
I am so awful-queer and leprous
Generate the interest with us
A Latino, an Anglo, a wild beau
My bid adieu

I'm worse at what I do best
And for this gift I feel blessed
Our little group has always been
And always will until the end

 I'm stale with passable ability
I felt it: trustful, glad, set free
We're here. Undo, disband? No --
And on the show will always go
And I forget just why I taste
Oh yeah, I guess it makes me smile
I found it hard, it's hard to find
Oh well, whatever, nevermind		 Why savor rum with my tongue?
Hah! 'It makes me jollified,' I sung
Isn't effortless to harvest, indeed
Ah, drat. -- I die with a need...
[5520]

[> Re: 'Nirvanagram' - Sorry the table has goofed-up spacing, but it should still be readable. -- Jesse F, 15:22:29 01/13/03 Mon
[5521]

[> Very entertaining, SPECIAL NOM ;) -- Paul Pan, 18:03:59 01/13/03 Mon
[5523]

[> [> Seconded! Nice work maintaining rhymes IN a part-by-part -- Mey K., 08:36:37 01/15/03 Wed
[5583]

[> [> [> Nice work, Jesse. Reminiscent of some of Mey's early long anagrams. -- Larry Brash, 13:25:01 01/15/03 Wed
[5595]

[> [> Thanks to all! -- Jesse, 10:34:52 01/16/03 Thu
[5641]
The Fourth Color Atlas and Text of Diagnostic Microbiology = -- Jesse F, 10:13:34 01/16/03 Thu
[5638]
Laughter is the best medicine. = Is it the damn blues? I get cheer! -- Richard Brodie, 05:49:27 01/15/03 Wed
[5557]

[> Re: [Laughter is the best medicine. = Is it the damn blues? I get cheer!] *NOM*, RB! -- Jaybur, 07:22:43 01/15/03 Wed
[5573]

[> [> Re: [Laughter is the best medicine. = Is it the damn blues? I get cheer!] *Thanks*, J! -- Richard Brodie, 11:28:12 01/15/03 Wed
[5591]

[> Laughter is the best medicine. = Chemist liberated the genius = I must be "Increase The Delight" = The imbecile git hated nurses -- AH, 03:49:47 01/16/03 Thu
[5633]
Paranormal activities = A vampiric alien's tarot -- Mattias Inghe, 22:32:59 01/15/03 Wed
[5623]

[> LOL! Gen NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 01:28:46 01/16/03 Thu
[5625]

[> Paranormal activity = I am part clairvoyant -- Adrian H, 03:15:40 01/16/03 Thu
[5629]

[> [> Re: Paranormal activity = I am part clairvoyant [Don't get excited, it's an old one] -- AH, 03:17:24 01/16/03 Thu
[5630]

[> Paranormal activities = I'm a Spectral variation = An amoral, active spirit = Its arrival: a tap... "Come in!" -- AH, 03:25:00 01/16/03 Thu
[5631]
Australia Open Tennis = Set point in real sauna -- Wordminer, 07:48:41 01/14/03 Tue
[5535]

[> News mentions ~ women's tennis. -- Jesse F, 14:31:20 01/14/03 Tue
[5537]

[> Very good. Entertainment NOM. -- Larry Brash, 19:44:53 01/14/03 Tue
[5542]

[> Donīt wanna nitpick... -- Mattias Inghe, 03:10:38 01/15/03 Wed

...and it doesnīt make your gram less NOM-worthy IMHO, but isn't it the Australian Open? :)

The Australian Open tournament = Annual tennis rapture. Hoot, mate!
[5555]

[> [> Re: Donīt wanna nitpick... -- Wordminer, 05:52:36 01/15/03 Wed

>...and it doesnīt make your gram less NOM-worthy IMHO,
>but isn't it the Australian Open? :)
>
>The Australian Open tournament = Annual tennis
>rapture. Hoot, mate!

Anagrammatic license :)
[5558]

[> Improvement -- Wordminer, 01:43:28 01/16/03 Thu

Thanks for the inspiration to improve this with a tiny modification (add "s"):

Australia's Open Tennis = Set points in real sauna.
[5626]

[> Improvement -- Wordminer, 01:43:36 01/16/03 Thu

Thanks for the inspiration to improve this with a tiny modification (add "s"):

Australia's Open Tennis = Set points in real sauna.
[5627]
Porsche Cayenne Turbo = Hey! pronounce best car! -- Jaybur, 22:00:15 01/15/03 Wed
[5622]
The Open College of the Arts = Let's teach poet: no golf here! -- Jaybur, 18:50:32 01/15/03 Wed
[5614]
monasterial -- Tom Myers, 06:10:43 01/15/03 Wed

monasterial =
Amen a lot, sir
Moral is neat!
No materials
I'm a lot saner.
Mate's no liar.
or male saint
mean to liars
A moral nest, I
a menial sort
Alas, no merit
not aim laser
Meal rations
O man! Its real!
No liars team.


antigrams
monasterial =
Marital ones
I'm a real snot!
[5559]

[> Re: monasterial - a GENERAL NOM + SOME RUDE ONES -- Larry Brash, 06:39:57 01/15/03 Wed

>monasterial =
>Amen a lot, sir

Love it.

>antigrams
>monasterial =
>Marital ones
>I'm a real snot!
=
Anal erotism.
Mister O'Anal.
Oral inmates.
It means "oral".
It's oral, amen.
Mal into arse.
Isn't la amore?
Stir a male? NO!
I'm Satan role.
In amoral set.
Rats! I'm alone!
[5562]

[> [> Gen NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 18:10:15 01/15/03 Wed

monasterial
=
Rats! I'm alone!

This is *extremely* apt, since monastery" is ultimately derived from the Greek "monos" ("alone").

Some of your rude 'grams are also perfectly describe the average day in some of the Monasteries of Mt. Athos :P
[5611]
The hairpiece = Hi! Eerie patch! -- Jaybur, 07:42:01 01/15/03 Wed
[5578]

[> The not-bad hairpiece = Note: I hide bare patch. -- Jesse F, 09:06:24 01/15/03 Wed
[5587]

[> The obviously false hairpiece = I see filthy bush over alopecia. -- Larry Brash, 13:15:47 01/15/03 Wed
[5594]

[> [> After looking up 'alopecia' ... ha! NOM. -- Jesse F, 16:19:46 01/15/03 Wed
[5609]

[> Those hairpiece glues = I cherish a toupee's gel. -- Jesse F, 16:16:59 01/15/03 Wed
[5608]
Detroit Lions' team = Dreams into toilet. -- Jesse F, 15:14:23 01/15/03 Wed
[5603]

[> Just looked them up, and found the 'gram to be even more appropriate than I'd suspected. :) *ENT NOM* -- Richard G, 15:54:47 01/15/03 Wed
[5607]
on diet = I toned -- A. Sadali, 07:22:41 01/15/03 Wed
[5572]

[> [on diet = I toned] Neat! *GEN NOM* -- Richard G, 13:32:13 01/15/03 Wed
[5596]

[> [> Re: [on diet = I toned] Neat! *GEN NOM* thanks RG -- A. Sadali, 15:33:55 01/15/03 Wed
[5605]
short (mildly rude) -- Wordminer, 15:00:37 01/15/03 Wed

A great lust = urge, at last.
[5601]
Kmart will close more stores. = M. Stewart's role? I smell crook! -- Tom Myers, 14:22:10 01/15/03 Wed
[5599]
New Pit bull terrier puppy with kids -- julio, 06:52:09 01/15/03 Wed

Hi,
we just purchased a pit bull puppy 11 weeks old. He is very active like you can imagine...our kids (10, 6,& 4 yrs old) love him. the second day we had him, the kids starting running and the pup chased them while biting...bit my youngest son pretty hard where he had 2 stitches on his leg..my 6 yr old son was bitten in the buttock and the pup would not let go til he was hit on the head. all while playing.

how normal is this?
Is this the right dog for kids?

any other advice?

thanks in advance.

jv
[5564]

[> Re: New Pit bull terrier puppy with kids = We'd kill the wet puppy. Rip, burn it, sir -- Larry Brash, 13:56:26 01/15/03 Wed

>Hi,
>we just purchased a pit bull puppy 11 weeks old. He
>is very active like you can imagine...our kids (10,
>6,& 4 yrs old) love him. the second day we had him,
>the kids starting running and the pup chased them
>while biting...bit my youngest son pretty hard where
>he had 2 stitches on his leg..my 6 yr old son was
>bitten in the buttock and the pup would not let go til
>he was hit on the head. all while playing.

What is the puppy's name, so we can anagram him.

>how normal is this?

Fairly standard for a pitbull. They love chewing children.

>Is this the right dog for kids?

Depends how much you hate your kids.

>any other advice?

Find the right forum for vicious dogs.

>thanks in advance.

My pleasure
[5598]
A public tender = unpredictable -- Tom Myers, 04:50:01 01/15/03 Wed
[5556]

[> Back to your best, Tom! *GEN NOM* -- Richard G, 12:53:59 01/15/03 Wed
[5593]
The show 'Twenty-Four' = Few thus noteworthy. -- Jesse F, 11:41:08 01/15/03 Wed
[5592]
One foot in the grave = For I get on to heaven. -- Mey K., 08:47:29 01/15/03 Wed
[5584]

[> Re: One foot in the grave = For I get on to heaven. (I hope not) **Nom Gen -- Tom Myers, 09:51:14 01/15/03 Wed
[5590]
Get some natural viagra ... (rude ?) -- Wordminer, 09:34:15 01/15/03 Wed

Get some natural viagra = Ultimate ravager - no sag.
[5589]
Michelangelo's 'Creation of Adam' -- Mey K., 09:01:17 01/15/03 Wed


Michelangelo's 'Creation of Adam'
=
A theological scene: 'I'd Form a Man'.

Later!,
Mey K.
[5586]

[> Re: Michelangelo's 'Creation of Adam' - Excellent, Mey! Ent NOM. -- Jesse F, 09:10:21 01/15/03 Wed

>Michelangelo's 'Creation of Adam'
>=
>A theological scene: 'I'd Form a Man'.
[5588]
anti-virus softwares = view as "frustrations" -- A. Sadali, 07:18:30 01/15/03 Wed
[5570]

[> Re: anti-virus softwares = view as "frustrations": Best in the singular, IMO. *NOM* for View as "frustration" -- Jaybur, 07:25:48 01/15/03 Wed
[5575]

[> [> Re: anti-virus software = view as "frustration" ... thanks Jaybur for the remake. -- A. Sadali, 08:22:50 01/15/03 Wed
[5580]
THE RESULTS -- Larry Brash, 00:00:09 01/12/03 Sun

The results are now available.

Click here

Well done to all the winners.

Larry Brash
[5471]

[> Congrats to all! Thanks, folks for my first Rude 'grammy, Larry I'm honoured by your comments :) -- Paul Pan, 02:05:24 01/12/03 Sun
[5480]

[> I almost forgot awardsmaster's choice ... Thanks,and congrats to all winners ! -- Zoran, 21:56:12 01/12/03 Sun
[5493]

[> [> Re:Thanks,and congrats to all winners ! Seconding Zoran's message! -- Jaybur, 00:52:01 01/13/03 Mon
[5494]

[> Thanks to all for my first award! -- Jesse, 15:00:40 01/13/03 Mon
[5519]

[> [> Congratulation, Jesse, and all others! -- Mey K., 08:17:35 01/15/03 Wed
[5579]

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