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THE RESULTS -- Larry Brash, 07:35:12 01/24/03 Fri

Here are the results

Larry
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[> CONGRATULATIONS to all WINNERS! -- A. Sadali, 08:10:38 01/24/03 Fri
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[> Congrats to all players, and... -- Paul Pan, 17:18:32 01/24/03 Fri

...a big heartfelt thanks to Larry and Richard, whose labour of love has provided a playground & dojo for retrobates from Singapore to Novi Sad!
I am honoured to share the rookie 'grammist award with Joe, whose offbeat 'grams I always enjoy :)
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[> [> Re: Congrats to all players, and... (seconded) -- Zoran, 18:12:28 01/24/03 Fri

>...a big heartfelt thanks to Larry and Richard, whose
>labour of love has provided a playground & dojo for
>retrobates from Singapore to Novi Sad!
>I am honoured to share the rookie 'grammist award with
>Joe, whose offbeat 'grams I always enjoy :)

I agree with all Paul's word and want to thank you for
award to most improved anagrammatist in 2002.Nice to be
in company with excellent David A.Green.

Mey Kraus and Richard Grantham were absolutelly brilliant and I suggest to give them title "Kings of anagrams" :-)

Cheers,
Zoran

P.S. Perhaps you could really give this title to people
with more than 100 awards ?
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[> [> [> Richard Grantham and Mey Kraus = Hard Anagrammy duke 'n' rich tsar -- Paul Pan, 21:12:49 01/24/03 Fri
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[> [> [> "Kings of Anagrams" = So, M.K.& R.G. again, fans! -- Jesse F, 07:53:52 01/25/03 Sat
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[> [> [> [> Wow, I didn't even do anything. ;) I second David's words wholeheartedly. Great job, all! -- Mey K., 18:51:53 01/25/03 Sat
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[> [> Re: Congrats to all players, and... -- Joe F., 07:16:50 01/26/03 Sun

>...a big heartfelt thanks to Larry and Richard, whose
>labour of love has provided a playground & dojo for
>retrobates from Singapore to Novi Sad!

Seconded. You guys do a great job.

>I am honoured to share the rookie 'grammist award with
>Joe, whose offbeat 'grams I always enjoy :)

Erm, thanks for the compliment (I think) :). Seriously, thanks for the award, I'll try my hardest next year, all the usual acceptance speech crap, blah blah....

JF
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[> Well done everyone -- David A. Green, 07:07:18 01/25/03 Sat

Needless to say I was delighted to scrape through as winner in the OTHER NAMES category, and immensely pleased to be co-awarded the "Most Improved Anagrammatist of 2002". Anagramming is simply a fun pastime for me, but it's an honour to be given this recognition. Thank you.

Heartfelt congratulations to Richard and Mey for their pre-eminent performance in this year's awards; and a deserved round of applause to the other winners - Joe, Zoran, Paul, and Adrian - and all the other competitors.

Finally, an extra thank you to Larry and Richard for their hard work maintaining the website and for providing all of us with such a Centre of Anagramming Excellence.
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[> [> Thank you all, and well done to the other winners! -- Richard G, 12:37:35 01/26/03 Sun

>Anagramming is simply a fun pastime for me, but it's
>an honour to be given this recognition. Thank you.
>Finally, an extra thank you to Larry and Richard for
>their hard work maintaining the website and for
>providing all of us with such a Centre of Anagramming
>Excellence.

Cheers David and everyone, and a huge thanks for my embarrassingly large swag of Grands. I really ought to retire now so that others can have a greater and IMO more deserved share of (the more tangible side of) the fun. It'd be the right thing to do, seeing as I'm apparently co-monarch and all. :)

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RG
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[> [> [> Re: Thank you all, and well done to the other winners! -- Larry Brash, 12:48:06 01/26/03 Sun

>Cheers David and everyone, and a huge thanks for my
>embarrassingly large swag of Grands. I really ought to
>retire now so that others can have a greater and IMO
>more deserved share of (the more tangible side of) the
>fun. It'd be the right thing to do, seeing as I'm
>apparently co-monarch and all. :)

I'd like to echo Richard's thanks to all who have supported the Anagrammies, especially since our move to the Forum.

As for him "retiring"..... no way!

Larry.
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These corporate criminals = Note: rich amoralist creeps. -- Jesse F, 06:51:28 01/22/03 Wed
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[> Re: {These corporate criminals = Note: rich amoralist creeps.} GEN *NOM* -- A. Sadali, 21:43:06 01/22/03 Wed
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[> The corporate criminals = 'Rich man' closer to 'Pirate'. -- Richard G, 15:26:25 01/23/03 Thu
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[> [> ['Rich man' closer to 'Pirate'.] - Unbelievably clever, RG. Top/Gen NOM. -- Jesse F, 15:44:46 01/23/03 Thu
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[> [> [> Unbelievably toadying, Jesse. :P Thanks for the nom! -- Richard G, 10:41:06 01/26/03 Sun
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Super Bowl Commercials = Oral memos screw public. -- Jesse F, 02:25:13 01/26/03 Sun
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Actress Diane Lane (RUDE) -- Zoran, 23:23:53 01/25/03 Sat

Diane Lane = I need anal !
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Cartoonist Hirschfeld passed away = His specialty: drawn heads of actors -- Wordminer, 03:33:43 01/25/03 Sat

See alhirschfeld.com
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[> For those not familiar with the name Al Hirschfeld ... -- Wordminer, 14:31:37 01/25/03 Sat

Al Hirschfeld passed away earlier this week
at the age of 99. Probably best known in
his home town of New York, his drawings are
surely recognized around the world.

Specializing in the people of the the theater
his unique style had great character to it.
He will be missed.

See samples of his work at this link:
www.alhirschfeld.com
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[> [> Actually, your excellent 'gram says it all. *NOM* Thanks for the link, though -- Mey K., 18:11:29 01/25/03 Sat
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[> [> [> Seconded!! Great gram! -- Hans-Peter, 20:26:14 01/25/03 Sat
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[> [> [> [> Re: Thirded! I actually love Hirschfeld's caricatures. -- A. Sadali, 23:08:11 01/25/03 Sat
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old actress = scored last -- A. Sadali, 14:54:47 01/25/03 Sat
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A double entendre = Ban on rude. Delete! -- Larry, 08:38:12 01/25/03 Sat
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[> Re: A double entendre = Ban on rude. Delete! = *NOM* -- A. Sadali, 14:31:21 01/25/03 Sat
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Jury edicts = Dry justice = I decry, "Just?" = Just cry, "Die!" -- Jesse F, 08:16:54 01/25/03 Sat
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[> Re: *NOM* for 'Dry justice' -- A. Sadali, 14:28:54 01/25/03 Sat
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The National Trust Museum of Childhood, Sudbury Hall, Derbyshire = Ha! In truth such a lot of dull, dusty and rubbishy old memories here. -- David A. Green, 08:16:00 01/25/03 Sat
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N. Korean nuclear facilities [rude!] -- Paul Pan, 01:12:44 01/25/03 Sat

N. Korean nuclear facilities
=
Terrific anal icon: Kneel, USA!!!

[Just kidding....Guantanamo, here I come!!!]
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The singer Alanis Morissette = Elite miss arranges hit notes -- Zoran, 18:06:37 01/22/03 Wed
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[> Good one, Name NOM, Zoran. -- Jesse, 05:20:50 01/23/03 Thu
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[> [> Thanks,Jesse.She's one of my favorite singers. -- Zoran, 17:29:35 01/24/03 Fri
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Here's some lesser known World Records (very rude): -- David Bourke, 21:53:41 01/22/03 Wed

Here's some lesser known World Records:

MOST SEMEN SWALLOWED
Michelle Monaghan had 1.7 pints of semen pumped out
of her stomach in Los Angeles in July 1991.

LONGEST PUBES
Maoni Vi of Cape Town has hair measuring 32
inches from the armpits and 28 inches from her vagina.

MOST CAVERNOUS CROTCH
Linda Manning of Los Angeles could, without preparation,
completely insert a lubricated American football into her
vagina.

ZIT POPPING
In July 1987, Carl Chadwick of Rugby, England, squeezed a zit
and projected a detectable amount of yellow pus a distance of
7ft 1 inch.

WORST DRINK
The most horrible drink to be considered a beverage and
safely drunk is Khoona. It is drunk by Afghani tribesmen
on their wedding night and consists of a small amount of
still-warm very recently attained bull semen. It is believed
to be a potent aphrodisiac.

MOST OFFENSIVE COCKTAIL
This is available from a few select bars in New York. It
contains tomato juice, a double shot of vodka, a spoonful
of French mustard and a dash of lime. It is not mixed, but
served with a tampon (unused) instead of a cocktail umbrella
and is known as a 'Cunt Pump'.

GREATEST DISTANCE ATTAINED FOR A JET OF SEMEN
Horst Schultz achieved 18 ft 9 in with a 'substantial'
amount of seminal fluid. He also holds the records for
the greatest height (12 ft 4in) and the greatest speed
of ejaculation, or muzzle velocity, with 42.7mph.

LONGEST TURD
The longest dump ever verified was produced by an American,
who produced a 'staggering turd' over a period of 2 hr 12 mins
which was officially measured at 12 ft 2in. The offender is
banned from 134 washrooms in his state.

MOST PROLONGED FART
Steve J Francis of Bexleyheath, England managed to sustain a
fart for an officially recorded time of 2 mins 42 seconds.

=

SMALLEST BRAIN
The smallest one found is that of George W. Bush of Texas,
USA, at around the size of a pea.

MOST MEN SLEPT WITH
1st: Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone, with 18,972 over 29 years.
2nd: Farrokh Bulsara of Zanzibar (Freddie Mercury, Queen) with 17,281.
3rd: Zsa-Zsa Gabor (14,247).
(THE MOST WOMEN: A toss-up between k.d. lang and Melissa Etheridge).

WIDEST BACKSIDE
A most ample arse can be found on Jennifer Lopez, with a
nude width of 44.2 inches.

HUGEST NOSE
Barry Manilow at a fine 12 inches.

FUNNIEST EARS
Charles Windsor

MOST TEDIOUS
Steve 'Interesting' Davis of Romford, UK.

MOST IRRITATING VOICE
David Beckham.

TINIEST BIT OF CUTIE-PIE FLUFF
Kylie Minogue

DULLEST ACCENT
Nigel Mansell

WORST-DRESSED
John McCririck (a horse-racing commentator).

WORST FATHER
Michael Jackson of Neverland.

MOST FULL-OF-SHIT
David Icke

MOST RIDICULOUS MULLET
Michael Bolton.

LEAST FUNNY 'COMEDY ACT'
1st: Jim Davidson
2nd: Hale and Pace

MOST PATHETIC POP 'SINGER'
Victoria 'Posh Spice' Beckham.

MOST UNFORTUNATE NAME OF COCKNEY RHYMING-SLANG
Emma Freud

MOST FATUOUS TOAD
Tony Blair

LEAST HONEST
Jeffery Archer

BIGGEST EGO
Belongs to Dave Lee Roth of Pasadena. (A vocalist of
'Van Halen'). It is, indeed, larger than Pasadena.

MOST VAIN, LIMP-WRISTED, FEMININE, SHIRTLIFTING NAFF OLD POUF
A tie: Graham Norton / Dale Winton

LOUDEST BAND
Spinal Tap. ("They go up to 11").

HIGHEST GONADS
Jimi Somerville

LONGEST CRIMINAL RECORD
'Pictures At An Exhibition' (Emerson Lake and Palmer)

OLDEST BACHELOR
Cliff Richard (82)

FASTEST-FADED-AWAY DUFF POP DIVA
Mariah Carey (32)

TOUGHEST OLD TROUT
Dolly Parton

CHEAPEST WHORE
Divine Brown - from just 99 cents
(around 71 and a half pence) for half an hour.

SILLIEST ACCIDENT WHEN SURFING
Pete Townshend of The Who. (Not only deaf...now dumb and blind too).
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[> ROTFL, we have a winner! LONG NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 21:57:24 01/22/03 Wed
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[> [> Re: SECONDED! LONG NOM :) -- A. Sadali, 22:28:48 01/22/03 Wed
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[> Congrats DB! Excellent SPECIAL NOM :) -- Adrian H, 22:48:24 01/22/03 Wed
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[> Re: Brilliant. Does it NEED to be an anagram? -- Matjaz P., 04:39:07 01/23/03 Thu
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[> [> Thanks for the comments! -- David Bourke, 17:14:32 01/24/03 Fri
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Australian Open Tennis = Presentation is annual -- Adrian H, 20:18:25 01/23/03 Thu

[It's another all-Williams final:]

The Australian Open Women's Finals =
A fault? No! A phenomenal sister wins!
The professional team's annual win
How faultless! Tennis paranoia, men?

[My prediction: Serena to retain her title]

The Australian Open Women's Final =
I am the plot of Serena's annual win
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[> [Presentation is annual] There's the gem I couldn't find... nice job, AH. Ent NOM. -- Jesse, 06:53:07 01/24/03 Fri
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'Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle' by Edgar Rice Burroughs = Truth'll be our hero's big, rugged and crazy for Jane! -- David A. Green, 08:43:28 01/23/03 Thu
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[> Excellent! *ENT NOM* -- Richard G, 15:06:38 01/23/03 Thu

For a second there I read that as William Burroughs. Hmmm... :)

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RG
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[> [> Re: Excellent! *ENT NOM* - Have to second this beauty! -- Richard Brodie, 21:04:36 01/23/03 Thu
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exposes ~ sex pose -- A. Sadali, 16:46:52 01/23/03 Thu
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[Poorly mixed, but] Widescreen = Wider scene. -- Jesse F, 16:29:15 01/23/03 Thu
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Korean threat = North: A retake? -- Jesse F, 15:42:20 01/23/03 Thu
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Isn't "romantic and erotic" ~ a contradiction in terms? -- Richard G, 18:54:13 01/21/03 Tue
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[> Not nececelery! Gen NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 20:11:28 01/21/03 Tue
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[> [> Re: SECONDED! Gen *NOM* -- A. Sadali, 01:02:44 01/22/03 Wed
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[> [> [> And thirded, excellent! -- Joe F., 01:05:23 01/22/03 Wed
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[> [> [> [> Thanks, everyone! -- Richard G, 15:11:16 01/23/03 Thu
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James Barrie's 'Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Would Not Grow Up' = Pose as rowdy pre-pubertal junior whom age won't bother. -- David A. Green, 06:39:22 01/23/03 Thu
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[> Solid as ever, David. *LONG NOM* -- Richard G, 14:53:58 01/23/03 Thu
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Medical mistake = Sick. Maimed. Late. -- Hans-Peter, 02:53:53 01/22/03 Wed
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[> Apt, GEN NOM :) Created limp? Acclaim~medical malpractice! -- Paul Pan, 02:11:05 01/23/03 Thu
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[> [> [GEN NOM] Thanks Paul! -- Hans-Peter, 05:55:23 01/23/03 Thu
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[> [Sick. Maimed. Late.] Excellent, HP! -- Richard G, 14:51:25 01/23/03 Thu
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Another Bush/Saddam (50 letters) -- Wordminer, 05:05:56 01/23/03 Thu

The United States embarks on a war over oil in the Middle East.
=
Bush team's retried lies to weaken evil Saddam rot the nation.
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[> [Another Bush/Saddam] *LONG NOM*, Wordminer. -- Richard G, 14:42:41 01/23/03 Thu
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'All Creatures Great and Small' by James Herriot = Recall the smart, dear animal surgery-job tales. -- Jesse Frankovich, 06:55:48 01/23/03 Thu
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[> Re: 'All Creatures Great and Small' by James Herriot = Recall the smart, dear animal surgery-job tales. -- David A. Green, 07:26:18 01/23/03 Thu

Good one! A year or so ago I found the following:

James Herriot's 'All Creatures Great and Small' =
Mare's ill - treat her... Dog snarls... Ram ejaculates!
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[> [or:] Later, merry animal doc just heals larger beast -- Wordminer, 11:05:26 01/23/03 Thu
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Salesmen = Lameness ;-) -- Joe F., 08:19:04 01/23/03 Thu
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Desert = Deters. [Too hot and dry for me!] -- Jesse F, 06:00:48 01/23/03 Thu
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Flip the coin = Inflict hope? -- Jesse F, 05:57:42 01/23/03 Thu
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Reality shows = Yah! Worst lies. -- Matjaz P., 04:30:11 01/23/03 Thu
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FREE TRIALS = err.....fat lies! -- A. Sadali, 02:54:14 01/23/03 Thu
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VOTING IS CLOSED. RESULTS WILL BE POSTED LATER -- Larry Brash, 22:16:03 01/22/03 Wed

The voting is now closed and most of the results can be viewed on the Leaders Board at ../cgi-bin/leader.pl
(password is jupiter)

We had a new record number of voters for the Grand Anagrammy with 49 voters, just one off the highest ever for the monthly awards. Thank you all for voting. It really makes our job feel worthwhile when we see such a great response.

It will be about 22 hours before I will have a chance to post the full results. These will contain:

Best Overall Short Anagram.
Best Overall Long Anagram.
Best Rooky Anagrammatist
Most Improved Anagrammatist
Most Consistent Anagrammatist
and the Daniel F. Etter Memorial Award for Anagrammatist of the Year.

Larry
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Warning to the gay and lesbian community (c-rude) -- Paul Pan, 19:13:58 01/22/03 Wed

Gay and lesbian community
=
Not ceding my labia & my anus!
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Some more anagrams from me -- Amir, 02:12:00 01/22/03 Wed

MEDICAL MISTAKES - A TEAM MISLED SICK
I, CALM MEEK SADIST

THE QUIET AMERICAN - QUEER HIT AT CINEMA

QUEEN LATIFAH - EH, TEQUILA FAN (She's been caught driving under influence).

Cheers,

Amir.
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[> *NOM* for "The quiet American" = "Queer hit in cinema" -- Zoran, 18:28:10 01/22/03 Wed
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[> [> Oops ! I meant , "Queer hit at cinema" -- Zoran, 18:33:12 01/22/03 Wed
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Actress Monica Potter (some anagrams are mildly rude) -- Zoran, 18:14:56 01/22/03 Wed

Monica Potter
=
Top actor in me !
Erotic tampon
Romantic poet ?
Come into part !
Port to cinema
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A grand rude gem... -- Jesse Frankovich, 11:57:34 01/20/03 Mon

A randy gal = A grand lay!
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[> Re: A grand rude NOM ;) -- Paul Pan, 18:11:03 01/20/03 Mon
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[> [> [Thanks, Paul] Rudest anagrams = Arranged as smut. :^) -- Jesse, 15:32:02 01/22/03 Wed
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Emergency parachutes = Reach my urgent escape? [+2 more] -- Jesse Frankovich, 06:45:06 01/22/03 Wed

Emergency parachutes =

Reach my urgent escape?

Are them urgency capes.

Cheap?! Cement a surgery.
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The Ballad of Mary Letourneau -- Richard Brodie, 05:14:34 01/21/03 Tue

The thing that cannot help being noticed and appreciated by a sensitive spirit, is a quite obvious similarity, if you reflect and examine the accusation information contained in the quantitatively different, although qualitatively equivalent cases of the inappropriate incarceration of Mary Letourneau and of poet Oscar Wilde. The ending of a difficult and excruciating penitentiary travail in that noxious institution, a jail that is located in Reading, England, was exactly one century prior to the beginning the appalling mistreatment of Mary, both of their liberations happening in their forty second years.

Both were convicted on indictments of iniquitous victimization of a minor boy, a difference between their respective cases being that in one case the offense was heterosexual, and in the other the offense was homosexual. Both bore their pitiable vilification with patience, affability, and equanimity, for in neither instance did any felony forcible rape happen.

The calamity of each of them was that of living in quite an appallingly malignant, vicious time in history. In a later period, not intolerant of a lifestyle of gay people, the annihilation of the inimitable artistic gift of that precious life may not have vitiated the history of civilization with this stain of a quieting of the expression of an inimitable
creative artist. In an earlier time, not having that quite rigid chronologically stratified conception and definition of what exactly constitutes maturity, that is characteristic of the latter part of the twentieth century, a time of rampantly and irritatingly all-intrusive illegitimate government attempts to pry into every aspect of people's private lives, Mary
Letourneau might also have escaped the suffocating punishment of an extremely lengthy
term of imprisonment.

In fact, only a very few years earlier, at a time when the woman's liberation movement had not as yet attained that acceptance characteristic of today's militant mainstream attitude, a male that was sitting on the bench would quite certainly have acted relatively more compassionately, and given to her a lenient, less draconian type penalty that was deemed appropriate to the delinquency of her indiscretions. As it turned out the female that sat on the bench in her case, one Linda Lau, trying to prove herself to be as stern and tough in applying rape statutes, and equally as ruthless and tyrannical as any man, inflicted tragically uncharitable, bitter pain on an unfortunate, beautiful, delicate victim, to the tune of a calamitously crippling seven year stay in a correctional facility, that will impart a permanent imprint of pain upon the innocent young offspring of that entire family.

Compare the ignominy of that appallingly egregious discipline to that of a mere eighteen months dispensed to a male teacher of the same state, who had precisely a similar sort of charge leveled against him involving a young female that was in his class - a quantity of time very similar to that given to Oscar Wilde, five times less than that given
inappropriately and non-sympathetically to a benevolent, amiable, kindly, affectionate lady - certainly one of the most contemptible, disappointingly shameful violations of rights and regrettable instances of unpardonably mean punishment, in the entire sorry, attainted history of the Eighth Amendment to the Constitution.
The incident involving the romantic affair that happened regarding Wilde, providing occasion for a poetic commemoration, I felt it appropriate that Mary Letourneau's criminal confinement also have that sort of a literary memorial, lest people's consciences ever forget the reprehensible and detrimental treatment that was meted out to her, affecting her poor children.

After a mere couple of years of privation of freedom, Mary penned the inspiring effort of twenty-seven "If ... then, Why?" points, a determined protestation, a reasoned reflective statement, a penetrating plea, written for effecting a beneficent emancipation in appropriate rectification for that torment inflicted; and it is from them that the inspiration came to me to attempt to compose a pertinent poem to offer, if not an Everest, at least a modest literary hill as a platform to trumpet her message from.

The Ballad of Mary Letourneau
by Richard Allen Brodie

I'll sing a song of hurtful wrong
Done to a lady frail;
A song of shame on mankind's name
For chaining her in jail;
A song of pain - hearts torn in twain,
A star-crossed lover's tale.

A song of rage - Oh, the sorry page
In a tale, that has no end,
Of custom's knife that pierces life
And hearts in twain doth rend;
And leaves the soul with a gaping hole
Men's hands can never mend.

A wound that only He can close
Who sees the widow's eyes,
Who knows a mother's agony,
Who hears a mother's cries,
Who gently clears away her tears,
And bids her daughter rise!

A mother from her children torn
Can on His care rely,
And know that they, - though far away
Beneath His watchful eye,
Her love will know - and know their love
For her will never die.

She did not harm the boy she loved
Nor did she him seduce.
There was nothing lewd to be construed
As wrongful child abuse.
And so to call what she did "rape"
There is simply no excuse.

The law is cruel and ignores Christ's rule,
The rule of golden grace.
All individuality
It must completely erase;
For it's easier to destroy a life
When your victim has no face.

They fell in love in a college class
Where both as equals came.
But a law half blind can only find
Guilt, turpitude, and blame.
To stigmatize, in court it tries
For student/teacher shame

As character assassins speak
It looks the other way;
At slander winks, at libel blinks,
Allows the press to say:
"Molester!", "Pedophile!", and worse,
Her good repute to slay.

For sharing with a lad of twelve
Her intimate affection
The judge cries foul and with a scowl
Quotes Title, Clause, and Section;
And with mien austere and voice severe
Gives seven years' correction.

As being late for a trial date
Adds dollars on the dime,
To peeve the bench is a sin perceived
Far worse than any crime.
So the judge throw fits and Mary gets
Five years of extra time!

In Mary's case there was no place
For Logic. Truth was buried;
Mercy aborts when in the courts
The Law with Hate is married -
Of Reason it was a travesty,
Compassion was miscarried.

At first some thought that she would not,
As men would, punished be,
Who, being male, they'd put in jail
And throw away the key.
They'd spare the necks of her fair sex
By showing leniency.

But a man who did the selfsame thing
With a girl of tender age -
A teacher in fact, who's selfsame act
Should have earned the selfsame wage -
Lived five years less than Mary lived
Locked in a prison cage.

And how unfair it is to care
For gender, not a whit,
As if one standard uniform
Would men and women fit;
For the female only can be harmed
By the act that men commit.

"My love was pure, I did not lure
My youthful lover in.
'Twas his intent, his plan, he meant
His teacher's heart to win.
All tenderness, not violence,
All right intent, not sin.

"And yet the charge that did enlarge
My sentence drastically,
From eighteen months to seven years
Before I could go free,
Was that with violence I raped
The boy who wanted me."

Custom decrees for boys like these
But thirteen years of age,
That none can choose a life-long love;
Such things they cannot gauge.
But some can choose to spend their lives
Within a prison cage.

The guardians of mores of love
Sought her insane to show.
If she were seen with senses keen,
It would be quite a blow
To sacred social notions of
How courtship ought to go.

But it's not Mary, it's the law
That broke with Reason's bound,
And made a heinous ruling, quite
Without the slightest ground
Two adults may no contact have?
Here was no justice found!

That blessed mother-baby bond
Is held by law to be
A sacred right as precious quite
As any legacy
That life can give to those who live
Among the brave and free.

But bravery and freedom wane
Unless the sons of men
With vigilance on guard remain
And rise to battle when
The fight their freedom to retain
Needs to be fought again.

Hearken all ye that suckled at
A mother's tender breast,
Who daily to recline within
Soft loving arms were blessed,
And nightly felt her kiss divine
Who lulled thee off to rest;

Hearken, how Mary's children's right
These blessings to enjoy
While they were but a little girl
Or but a little boy,
The court from them did take away
Like it was just some toy.

Hearken, and weep, for the pain goes deep
When the law becomes a thief -
The law that should have guarded them
Form the prosecutor's brief
Which asked that they be robbed of love
And gave them bitter grief.

"My treatment option program proved
A total farce to be.
My right to be a mother
It did cruelly take from me,
And cruelly from my children took
Their right their mom to see.

"When those entrusted to provide
Were placed beyond the pale
Of law, and acted hurtfully
Towards us without fail,
The only option left to me
Was going into jail.

"Some said the 'freedom' that I had
I squandered. Is that true?
A freedom that is slavery
I would not choose. Would you?
And so for my dear children's sake
I chose my time to do.

"My children are away, kept far
From any touch of mine;
And from their hearts is frozen out
A mother's love divine.
They may not from my lips taste Truth's
Ambrosial anodyne.

"Confused bewildered, poisoned by
A double dose of lies,
They only see a view of me
Through lurid tabloid eyes,
Or, what's the same, what courts proclaim
Politically wise.

"For courts, of course, exist to force
Compliance with those rules
Passed by politicians pledged
To serve that mob of fools
Whose money spent on gossip rags
The tabloid business fuels.

"When I had not yet one day spent
Within the prison's wall,
Already: 'She's a non-compliant
Inmate.' was the call.
So from the first they thought the worst,
And set me up to fall.

"An inmate's right to have her plight
By counsel heard and known,
And choose her visitors to see
And whom to write or phone,
Was in my case restricted quite,
I was left quite alone

"If we have First Amendment rights
Then why could I not do
With a local station talk show host
A simple interview,
And let the world hear one clear voice
That rings with reason true?

"If many thousands with goodwill
To me have written in
To say that they have quite seen through
The lies, the smoke, the spin,
And wish me well, that trough this hell
I may keep up my chin;

"If these clear-thinking, sensitive,
Compassionate, and kind,
Supportive citizens no guilt
Could in my conduct find,
Nor any cause why any laws
These chains on me should bind;

"If this be so, I'd like to know
Why, then, the press promotes
That propaganda which upon
The airwaves daily floats -
One vicious song played loud and long,
One tune of hateful notes."

Although the public consciousness
Was in a state of shock
That she within those prison walls
For seven years must walk;
Still would the leader of this State
Not say: "Those chains unlock!"

"This person has a family
With children small, Oh, how
Can Mary Kay be kept away?
Their needs do not allow
This separation to go on,
Release this woman, now!"

But her appeal for clemency
Did fall on deafened ears.
Those men who could have done some good
Had re-election fears
That were far more persuasive than
A mother's pleading tears.

"Please won't you stop, you're hurting us!"
Her cry throughout the land
Reverberates, till caring hearts
And minds together band,
And men and women of goodwill
Arise and take a stand.

"Where's mommy? Oh! I miss her so."
A child's pathetic cry
Convicts those who will nothing do
But just stand idly by.
They'll hear their sentence when they have
No answer for God's "Why?"

Her persecutors - may they roast
In Dante's deep inferno.
Your pain will pass, courageous lass.
Will guilt belong to her? No!
Devoid of fear, with conscience clear
Is Mary Kay Letourneau.

=

"If... then Why?"
Mary Letourneau, January 2000

If my questions to you are based on verified factual merit, and follow a clean path of logic that respect both the community and our private family interests... Then why is this voice silenced? How can these questions be disqualified or put down?

# 1. If "abuse" or "harm done" are not part of the elements of guilt for the crime I was convicted of... Then how is it that the word 'Rape' is allowed to title that law, when guilty simply says: sexual intercourse happened and they were not married? Why not titled it "Unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor?" Why the alarming hysteria of the word "RAPE?"

# 2. If this is really about 'me' personally... Then why is my actual image blocked; what I actually look like, my mannerisms, my actual ways, my values, and my actual words in context?

# 3. If Vili and I became involved while we were both students together in a college summer class... Then why have the prosecution and the media insisted on painting a different picture - one that tries to force the public to see and respond to this case as if it happened when we were student-teacher to each other?

# 4. If there are laws against libel and slander... Then why are words like pedophile, abuse, molestation, assault, rapist and victim allowed to be used by certain media and certain agencies and freely speaking individuals in connection to me and Vili, when those action and titles are not facts of our case, nor are they elements of guilt under the particular law that I was convicted of?

# 5. If females and males are clearly so different physically and emotionally, and there is a law that involves those different physical and emotional acts, and biologically the act only impacts and potentially harms the female... Then how can that law be written to apply equally to both genders as if we were the same?

# 6. If this law was meant to apply equally to both males and females... Then why have some men in this state (who were with teenage girls of the same age as Vili was when we were first together) been given charges of a non-violent classified sex offense (a ONE and a half year prison sentence), and for the same situation, I was charged with a VIOLENT classified sex offense that equals to a SEVEN and a half year prison sentence?

# 7. If, for a 13 year old, the law in this state uses an assessment criteria of a full profile - including cultural factors experience, and intellectual and emotional attributes - when considering whether to charge and try that 13 year old as an adult for their sophisticated actions of violence and hate... Then why was 13 year old Vili Fualaau's responsibility for his sophisticated actions of passion and love blocked into a legal criteria that ignored everything from his profile except for one thing - his birth age?

How can the law say surely that certain 13-year-olds are capable of knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently choosing a life sentence in prison... But close off even the possibility that maybe one 13 year old might be capable of knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently choosing a life partner in love?

# 8. If the most merited psychologists are saying that I have no psychiatric or psychological disorder or illness... Then why is it still so uncomfortable for some people to accept that there was and is nothing "wrong" with me?

If there's nothing wrong with me... Then why isn't the focus on what's right - about me, about Vili Fualaau - and about us together?

# 9. If Vili Fualaau was professionally assessed not to have been victimized by me, and he and his mother demanded they were not victims to me and made it clear that they do not want to beseparated from me... Then why was the court allowed to place a lifetime "victim-no contact order" between us?

# 10. If Vili has rights (the right to not be separated from me)... Then why does he not have an attorney (besides the media agent) representing him, assisting him on his actions to take against what is truly victimizing him - our forced separation, a disregard for his rights, his chosen future?

# 11. If there is no evidence of any harm or threatened harm by a mother to her children... Then how is it that any court or any acting authority is legally or in full conscience able to deny or limit or delay (even for a day's time) a mother and her child's intimate relationship, a bond considered by some courts to be more sacred than life itself?

# 12. If under the law I was convicted of, the sexual deviancy treatment was the only alternative to the long prison sentence, the only way to keep me free to be a mother... Then why, the day after I accepted the Judge's sentence (the treatment, the 'free to be a mother' option) was the treatment provider allowed, without legal scrutiny, to take all contact with all of my children from me, and allowed to put a gag order on me, a far worse fate for my children and me than prison?

If coming to prison was the only possibility I had to at least see my children or talk to them or write to them, and to get back my First Amendment rights... Then how can anyone say that defying the treatment program and coming to prison to do time and defend my legal rights was a "squandering" of my freedom?

# 13. If my children in Alaska are confused, and their caretakers are genuinely concerned about their healthy growth through this... Then why are they blocked from age appropriate truth about the law I was convicted under - government control, truths that make sense to their own basic perception of their mother - affirmations that allow them to keep esteem - instead of shattering their esteem by forcing them to accept the tabloid or 'politically correct'
education and images of their own mother?

# 14. If I hadn't yet served any time as an inmate in prison... Then how is it that my initial prison paperwork can have a label of me as a non-compliant inmate?

# 15. If I wasn't pre-labeled and singled out, and set up to appear to fail at the prison... Then why have I noticed, and had it reported to me by some honest staff here that certain other prison staff have sought me out, set up both petty and serious blockades on me, and in a few situations, fully fabricated infractions against me?

# 16. If all prisoners have a protected right to legal access... Then why has the prison continually blocked and limited my attorney time, my court participation, and my legal research, and even opened up my confidential legal mail?

# 17. If prisoners have a right to visitors of their choice as long as there are no legal impediments preventing them from visiting... Then why was a friend of mine taken off of my visit list when it was discovery by the prison that he was running my website?

# 18. If we have First Amendment rights... Then why was I banned by the prison from on-air interviewing with a local radio station?

# 19. If the law requires that prisoners be kept in least restrictive housing possible... Then why am I in maximum-security isolation in chains with no human contact-even phone access to my own mother and father? Is that really a necessary restraint for them to keep Vili and me from each other? And how will their proposed move of me to another state's prison solve the named problem of Vili and me keeping contact? Won't it instead only further block my legal
access and resources, and completely sever my relationship with my children?

# 20. If Vili and I have our name on a book as the supposed authors... Then how is it that neither of us knew of one word contained in that book until after it was already printed and bound? If the idea and contract was to allow Vili and me to tell our story, to express our side, our feelings... Then why, now that we have reviewed and corrected it to our view, our words- why is there a delay on the U.S. publishing?

# 21. If Vili Fualaau and I love each other, for nearly four years now, and are equally and passionately committed to each other and our future together... Then how can anyone focus on me alone and call this an obsession that I have? If my love for Vili Fualaau is going to be called by some an "obsession"...Then why not call my love for all my children, my mother, and my father the same thing, since the depth of commitment and love for them is as deep and pure as my love to Vili?

# 22. If privately the actuality of Vili and me together is pure, respectful, mutually life filling and independently chosen and committed to by us both... Then, besides the fact that we consummated our love outside of marriage (consent that would have to have been given by his mother at the time), what is the wrongful part of our relationship?

# 23. If Vili and I are legally married... Then what threat are we, or am I, to society?

# 24. If I realize and support the importance of laws in general that protect our young people from real violations to them, and I am willing to go to prison for the time necessary to preserve the deterrent value of these laws... Then why or how can anyone say that my fight for a just application of this law, or my fight for an honest representation of my image and the facts of this case, is not a fight that expresses the highest respect for law?

# 25. If there are thousands of clear-thinking, sensitive citizens (many with legal backgrounds, most with just common sense judgments and hearts) who have written to me (having seen through the initial barrage of propaganda against me) and expressed their different view of why this particular case is a miscarriage of justice- thanking me for my courage and praying for me to keep strong... Then why does this state's news still only report on opinions of the outrage of what my case in general seems, on the surface, to send a message of, still referring to me as, and trying to prove an image of me as, a hard, convicted child rapist?

# 26. If both protection of the general public order and protection of us as individuals can coexist and keep their value... Then why in this case is the protection of general public control and order being valued above and in negligent disregard for, the protection of the individuals involved?

# 27. If we are three years into this and there is still a shock to public conscience over the length of my imprisonment, and still forced estrangement and suffering to our personal family with no resolution in sight... Then why are we, the few that are intimately affected by this, not brought together at the peace table by the one leader of the people of this state, setting out a win-win fair solution, one that respects the people of this state as a whole and that acknowledges and meets the needs of our individual family?

I don't sit with these questions in a shackled state, buried alive.

These are the questions that spirit me to be able to wake up alone each day for two and a half years now, and pick up a pencil, or go through another law book question by question.

These are the questions that humble my face to face stand with any accuser; dare they really look in my eyes and challenge sound reason an logic.

These are the questions that the brave little girl in me throws aside, and climbs to the top of the highest mountain in the land and cries out an echoing "S-T-0-P! You're hurting us."

These are the questions that light a clear vision with pride in our hearts to Vili Fualaau's and my side-by-side future.

These are the questions that allow me to defy certain 'orders'.

These are the questions that illustrate the words of St. Augustine's proclamation, "An unjust law is no law at all", and Martin Luther King, Jr.'s voice, "One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."

These too are the questions that have brought unconscionable pain and grieving to my four children in Alaska.

And these are the questions that Vili and my two girls will one day painfully realize robbed them of sacred mother-child bonding and memories.

These are the questions that I pray will bring good people together to force a complete circle of logic and light, so that there isn't anymore in this (or other people's) life situations, a question of "If... then, Why?" but instead a peaceful and just acknowledgement of "If... then, Therefore."

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[Postcript: In view of the parallels I have drawn, I find it a facinating coincidence that Mary's sixth child was born while in prison on October 16, 1998 - the 144th anniversary of Oscar Wilde's birth!]
[5777]

[> Re: The Ballad of Mary Letourneau (minor correction) -- Richard Brodie, 09:30:43 01/21/03 Tue

Sorry. There was an "of" misplaced in the second sentence. It should read:

The ending of a difficult and excruciating penitentiary travail in that noxious institution, a jail that is located in Reading, England, was exactly one century prior to the beginning of the appalling mistreatment of Mary, both their liberations happening in their forty second years.
[5778]

[> [The Ballad of Mary Letourneau] A very Special piece of work, Richard. -- Richard G, 18:51:07 01/21/03 Tue
[5786]

[> A special NOM indeed! Mary Letourneau [quasi rude] -- Paul Pan, 20:09:54 01/21/03 Tue

Lay a teen. Rumour?
Aura: Rule toy men
teen-amour-lay.ru
[5788]

[> [> Thanks Richard and Paul for the NOMs -- Richard Brodie, 04:56:22 01/22/03 Wed
[5798]
detective holmes and watson = two nicest men solved a death -- A. Sadali, 19:16:57 01/20/03 Mon
[5771]

[> [two nicest men solved a death] Neat! *ENT/NAME NOM*, Ahmad. -- Richard G, 18:31:23 01/21/03 Tue
[5785]

[> [> Re: Thanks Richard! -- A. Sadali, 01:00:04 01/22/03 Wed
[5792]

[> [> [> Re: NAME NOM please. -- A. Sadali, 01:01:15 01/22/03 Wed
[5793]
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz = Klutz's raw job CV: Fix, mend, gyp HQ -- Paul Pan, 00:47:37 01/22/03 Wed
[5791]
VOTING CLOSES IN 24 HOURS -- Laary Brash, 21:38:05 01/21/03 Tue

37 votes in.

Voting will close in approximately 24 hours.

The URL direct to the Anagrammy Voting Page is:
../vote.html

If you have already voted this month, please ignore this. If not, vote now, before it is too late.

Thank you

Larry
[5790]
St. Mary's Cathedral = Sacred altar myths. -- Jesse F, 09:09:21 01/20/03 Mon
[5763]

[> [Sacred altar myths] Yep, good work Jesse. *OTHER NAMES* -- Richard G, 18:29:14 01/21/03 Tue
[5784]
talent show = halt to news = LA's the town = he won't last = ten who last -- Wordminer, 05:01:17 01/20/03 Mon
[5758]

[> [talent show = he won't last] Cruel! *ENT NOM* -- Richard G, 18:25:36 01/21/03 Tue
[5783]
Dancing in the Dark (somewhat rude) -- Ernesto G., 10:08:43 01/21/03 Tue

Dancing in the Dark =
Dating, hard neckin'
[5782]
Blair's grim New Year message -- Ernesto G, 10:03:30 01/21/03 Tue

Blair's grim New Year message = War is a mess, bearing elegy, Mr.
[5781]
Barking -- Ernesto G, 09:59:55 01/21/03 Tue

Barking up the wrong tree? =
Right. We get a reborn punk
[5780]
Fort Lauderdale -- Ernesto G., 09:56:05 01/21/03 Tue

Fort Lauderdale = Are dreadful lot
[5779]
Tasmanian Devil -- Paul Pan, 19:33:21 01/20/03 Mon

Tasmanian Devil
=
It is mean vandal
Animal's deviant
I'm evil and Satan
Livid, mean Satan
[5773]

[> Tasmanian Devil = Am island native -- AH, 20:00:38 01/20/03 Mon
[5775]

[> [> Goodie but oldie :) -- Paul Pan, 23:21:33 01/20/03 Mon
[5776]
[Sorry about the slight cheat] The Golden Globe Awards = We had elegant gold orbs -- Adrian H, 19:58:29 01/20/03 Mon
[5774]
music for the soul = most useful choir? -- A. Sadali, 19:18:54 01/20/03 Mon
[5772]
mass email = am aimless -- A. Sadali, 19:13:55 01/20/03 Mon
[5770]
Pete Townshend = Tends to nephew -- Ernesto G, 08:36:21 01/20/03 Mon

Pete Townshend = Tends to nephew
[5761]

[> Hahahaha! TOP NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 18:12:51 01/20/03 Mon

For those who might have missed it in the news, Pete Townshend was interrogated for frequenting child-porn sites.
[5769]
Miss Laura Dern = Unmarried lass. -- Jaybur, 18:10:50 01/20/03 Mon
[5767]
Miss Dorothy Leigh Sayers = Oh, she is grisly story dame! -- Jaybur, 01:03:45 01/18/03 Sat
[5704]

[> Re: Miss Dorothy Leigh Sayers = Oh, she is grisly story dame! ** NOM ** + another anagram -- David A. Green, 23:45:07 01/19/03 Sun

I like this one Janet! ENT or PEOPLES NAMES NOM.

The crime fiction writer Dorothy L. Sayers =
My rich stories often deal with icy terror.
[5740]

[> [> another anagram + another *NOM* -- Richard G, 00:53:50 01/20/03 Mon

>The crime fiction writer Dorothy L. Sayers =
>My rich stories often deal with icy terror.

Another beauty! Ent or Name nom.

---
RG
[5745]

[> [> Re: Oh, she is grisly story dame! ** NOM ** Thanks for Nom, David! -- Jaybur, 18:08:04 01/20/03 Mon
[5766]
Tampa/Raiders = Pirates drama. [Buccaneers & Raiders in Super Bowl] -- Jesse F, 13:53:38 01/20/03 Mon
[5765]
Rupert Murdoch of Australia = O crap, our hurtful media tsar. -- Jesse Frankovich, 15:42:38 01/19/03 Sun
[5732]

[> Re: Rupert Murdoch - sad, but true: Name NOM -- Wordminer, 08:39:22 01/20/03 Mon
[5762]
VOTING IS OPEN IN THE GRAND ANAGRAMMY AWARDS -- Larry Brash, 00:57:50 01/19/03 Sun

This is to inform you that voting is open for this year's Grand Anagrammy Awards.

The Grand Anagrammy Awards is a culmination of 12 months competition, with many the monthly Anagrammy winners vying for the most coveted anagramming awards in existence. The winners from each month are eligible to enter.

This is a competition where you will see the best anagrams created by some of the world's best anagrammatists.

Most competitors with more than one entry in a category have kept their best one, hence you will find there are not 12 monthly winners in each category.

Voting will be open for approximately 4 days. I will also send a final reminder in the final 24 hours.

The URL for the Anagrammy Voting Page is:
../vote.html

Click here

Happy voting and best of luck!

Larry Brash
[5723]

[> Re: Bug alert -- Paul Pan, 02:41:51 01/19/03 Sun

I'm afraid there seems to be a bug in the voiting menu: in one instance, the preview screen did not correspond to one of my selections. I tried again and the same problem persisted :(
[5724]

[> [> I had same problem - rude choices did not match those in preview at all! -- Jesse F, 06:57:30 01/19/03 Sun
[5725]

[> [> [> Re: oops, I just posted my choices without checking, they may not have been right then! -- Joe F., 09:06:10 01/19/03 Sun
[5728]

[> [> Re: Bug alert -- Larry Brash, 06:51:54 01/20/03 Mon

Thanks, folks.

Everything is fixed now (I hope). I have done a manual check of the votes and corrected any errors.

Larry
[5760]
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz = Schmaltz in foxy VW bug PDQ, jerk. -- Jesse F, 06:23:29 01/20/03 Mon
[5759]
a dramatic end = an admired act -- A. Sadali, 04:55:22 01/20/03 Mon
[5757]
EARN MONEY = Er, annoy me! -- Hans-Peter, 00:42:24 01/20/03 Mon
[5742]

[> Re: {EARN MONEY = Er, annoy me! }... ... ... funny... *GEN NOM* -- A. Sadali, 02:51:59 01/20/03 Mon
[5751]

[> [> [*SPAM NOM ??*] It was a spam in my mail, maybe Richard can place it there?? Thanks AS! -- Hans-Peter, 04:17:07 01/20/03 Mon
[5754]

[> [> [> erm, in the Spam category, not in my mailbox, of course :-) -- Hans-Peter, 04:49:28 01/20/03 Mon
[5755]

[> [> [> Re: [*SPAM NOM ??*] Ok then...Its your call. -- A. Sadali, 04:54:13 01/20/03 Mon
[5756]
Cigars -- Paul Pan, 02:08:20 01/20/03 Mon

Habanos = Ha! A snob
Cohiba Lanceros = Occasional herb
Partagas Serie D = Paradise greats = Great air passed = Dear! Irate gasps
[5749]

[> Happiness in a cigar called Hamlet [British advertising slogan] -- David A. Green, 03:45:09 01/20/03 Mon

>Habanos = Ha! A snob
>Cohiba Lanceros = Occasional herb
>Partagas Serie D = Paradise greats = Great air passed
>= Dear! Irate gasps

Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet =
I'm all shipshape? Alas, I'd get cancer.
[5753]
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.... (Advertising slogan for the film Jaws 2 (1978)) -- David A. Green, 03:30:21 01/20/03 Mon

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water =
It's Jaws Two: But once again we / they outfought the shark.
[5752]
disney's animated motion pictures = my potent idea in music and stories -- A. Sadali, 17:29:42 01/19/03 Sun
[5736]

[> [my potent idea in music and stories] :) *ENT NOM*, Sadali. -- Richard G, 00:48:21 01/20/03 Mon
[5743]

[> [> Re: Thanks RG. :) -- A. Sadali, 02:49:20 01/20/03 Mon
[5750]
One-armed bandit = Or: a man indebted. -- Hans-Peter, 00:05:57 01/20/03 Mon
[5741]

[> [Or: a man indebted.] Up there with the classic "One-armed bandits = Reno's damned bait". *GEN NOM*, HP. -- Richard G, 01:02:57 01/20/03 Mon
[5747]

[> [> [ENT NOM, Please.] And thanks, Richard. -- Hans-Peter, 01:14:18 01/20/03 Mon
[5748]
The daredevil motorcycle stuntman Evel Knievel = My machine'll levitate over ten, eleven odd trucks! -- David A. Green, 19:28:59 01/19/03 Sun
[5739]

[> And one more makes three. *ENT/NAME NOM*, David. -- Richard G, 00:56:42 01/20/03 Mon
[5746]
The late horror films actor Peter Cushing = He'll star much in repeats of Gothic terror. -- David A. Green, 19:25:15 01/19/03 Sun
[5737]

[> A beauty, David! *ENT NOM* -- Richard G, 00:51:41 01/20/03 Mon
[5744]
The shower scene in Alfred Hitchcock's 'Psycho' = Wench has it! Cheesy cliched softporn shocker. -- David A. Green, 19:27:31 01/19/03 Sun
[5738]
[America's Dairyland] Fields of Wisconsin = Find cows, fine soils. [+2 more] -- Jesse Frankovich, 16:54:43 01/19/03 Sun

Fields of Wisconsin = Find cows, fine soils.

Wisconsin = Is cows' inn.

State of Wisconsin = Cows' ass in it often.
[5735]
The European Union = UN: "Utopia? None here." -- Jesse Frankovich, 16:17:17 01/19/03 Sun
[5734]
[Antigram] ruthful <> hurtful -- Jesse F, 15:47:10 01/19/03 Sun
[5733]
US States -- Wordminer, 10:39:32 01/18/03 Sat

i.e., Alabama Delaware Florida Illinois Indiana Kansas Kentucky Montana New Hampshire
Ohio South Carolina Texas Virginia Wisconsin ~
elicit Alaska California Hawaii Louisiana Maine Missouri Nebraska New Mexico North Dakota Pennsylvania Rhode Island Washington
[5709]

[> Re: (same) US States - better use of leftover letters -- Wordminer, 07:19:52 01/19/03 Sun

CLINTON: Alaska California Hawaii Louisiana Maine
Missouri Nebraska New Mexico North Dakota Pennsylvania
Rhode Island Washington
=
NON: Alabama Delaware Florida Illinois Indiana Kansas
Kentucky Montana New Hampshire
Ohio South Carolina Texas Virginia Wisconsin
[5726]

[> [> Re: (same) US States - better use of leftover letters -- Mattias Inghe, 09:49:59 01/19/03 Sun

>CLINTON: Alaska California Hawaii Louisiana Maine
>Missouri Nebraska New Mexico North Dakota Pennsylvania
>Rhode Island Washington
> =
>NON: Alabama Delaware Florida Illinois Indiana Kansas
>Kentucky Montana New Hampshire
>Ohio South Carolina Texas Virginia Wisconsin

Cute. Is it accurate? :)
[5729]

[> [> Re: better use of leftover letters - accurate ? -- Wordminer, 14:15:30 01/19/03 Sun

Alas - not accurate -
it was hard enough just getting the states to balance.
[5731]
CURRENT NOMS -- Richard G, 12:37:57 01/19/03 Sun

CURRENT NOMS
[5730]
The animal liberationists = It is basil he ate, not marlin. :) -- Richard G, 23:53:28 01/18/03 Sat
[5722]
The Grand Canyon site = Egad, it's no cranny! ;) -- Mey K., 21:28:36 01/17/03 Fri
[5698]

[> Actually, the 'The' is redundant: Grand Canyon site = Egad, it's no cranny! -- Mey K., 21:36:20 01/17/03 Fri
[5699]

[> [> And for a shorter version: Grand Canyon = Gad! No 'cranny'!... -- Mey K., 20:27:33 01/18/03 Sat
[5719]
Inconsiderate ~ is not nice, dear! -- Tom Myers, 06:38:27 01/15/03 Wed
[5561]

[> [Inconsiderate ~ is not nice, dear!] Gen NOM -- Jesse F, 07:06:18 01/15/03 Wed
[5568]

[> [> Re: Apparently not new [Inconsiderate ~ is not nice, dear!] Gen NOM -- Tom Myers, 19:05:46 01/18/03 Sat

Philip M. Cohen wrote to Alt. anagrams that this 'gram was
Discovered by L. Kin Spark, Jan 1923
[5718]
Alfredo = Old fare. -- Jesse F, 18:03:15 01/18/03 Sat
[5717]
Thousands of email addresses ! = SOS: one dished mass adult fare. -- Wordminer, 11:01:55 01/18/03 Sat
[5711]

[> [ also = ] send authorised mass of leads -- Wordminer, 15:11:15 01/18/03 Sat
[5716]
[Basketball player] Yao Ming = O, in a gym! -- Jesse F, 13:03:30 01/18/03 Sat
[5715]
[Kinda dumb, but:] Daybreak = A 'dark-bye' -- Jesse F, 12:26:36 01/18/03 Sat
[5714]

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