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Another stolen anagram -- Richard G, 14:01:13 01/27/03 Mon

This time in the Sunday Mail here in Brisbane, in an article about Danniella Westbrook's reconstructed septum.

"One site points out that 'the soap actress Danniella Westbrook' is an anagram of 'hit coke: nasal parts were soon blasted'."
...by none other than our own David A. Green. No attribution in sight.

The journalist (if you can call her that) was Victoria Newton, whom Google identifies as "the editor of the Sun's flagship celebrity gossip column Bizarre". Nice to know our local rag is drawing upon such top-quality sources.

Danniella Westbrook =
Owned a bleak nostril.

---
RG
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[> Re: Another stolen anagram (bloody typical) -- Larry Brash, 17:13:15 01/27/03 Mon

>The journalist (if you can call her that) was Victoria
>Newton, whom Google identifies as "the editor of the
>Sun's flagship celebrity gossip column Bizarre". Nice
>to know our local rag is drawing upon such top-quality
>sources.

David should send her a bill.

Victoria Newton =
Invoice tart.. Now!

Maybe she should find a
"Winter vocation"

because of her
"Overt wino antic."

Larry
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[> Re: Another stolen anagram -- David A. Green, 09:06:14 01/28/03 Tue

>This time in the Sunday Mail here in Brisbane, in an
>article about Danniella Westbrook's reconstructed
>septum.
>
>"One site points out that 'the soap actress Danniella
>Westbrook' is an anagram of 'hit coke: nasal parts
>were soon blasted'."
>...by none other than our own David A. Green. No
>attribution in sight.
>
>The journalist (if you can call her that) was Victoria
>Newton, whom Google identifies as "the editor of the
>Sun's flagship celebrity gossip column Bizarre". Nice
>to know our local rag is drawing upon such top-quality
>sources.
>
>Danniella Westbrook =
>Owned a bleak nostril.
>
>---
>RG
Thanks for the tip-off, Richard. Dave Bourke had already alerted me to the news that the London edition of the Mail for Friday 18th January carried the anagram (unattributed, of course), but I wasn' aware it had been syndicated across the globe. I presume they swiped it from the Anagram Genius archive. Still, the fact that they bothered to swipe it at all is a compliment of sorts. I can now put "internationally-published anagrammarian" on my CV.

Liked your bleak nostril gram!
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[> [> Re: Another stolen anagram - NOM -- Allan Morley, 15:17:32 01/30/03 Thu

>>Danniella Westbrook =
>>Owned a bleak nostril.
>>
>>---
>>RG
>Thanks for the tip-off, Richard. Dave Bourke had
>already alerted me to the news that the London edition
>of the Mail for Friday 18th January carried the
>anagram (unattributed, of course), but I wasn' aware
>it had been syndicated across the globe. I presume
>they swiped it from the Anagram Genius archive. Still,
>the fact that they bothered to swipe it at all is a
>compliment of sorts. I can now put
>"internationally-published anagrammarian" on my CV.
>
>Liked your bleak nostril gram!

Me too! People's name NOM, Richard.

Allan
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How does National Geographic decide on articles? -- Larry Brash, 06:36:56 01/28/03 Tue

National Geographic =
Gaining a clear photo. (old one of mine)
e.g. O, in tropical Ghana.
Topical region: Ghana.
Hi, gonna top a glacier?
Chaplain rage in Togo.
Archipelago in Tonga.
April? The Congo (again).
Ah, polar caneoing git.
Topic: "Healing Angora".
Go to rich Nepal, again.
Hi, capital (e.g. Rangoon).
Hoping Gate, Carolina.
One olging Carpathia.
Go apearling to China.
Hanging Pole, Croatia.
Aggro Ethiopian Clan
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[> Geographic Information = Chore of map originating. -- Jesse Frankovich, 14:46:58 01/28/03 Tue
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[> [> Re: Geographic Information = Chore of map originating. - Great, Jesse! Gen/Other NOM -- Allan Morley, 15:07:02 01/30/03 Thu
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[> Why I asked dad for a National Geographic subscription at the age of 11 [semi-rude] -- Paul Pan, 23:43:52 01/28/03 Tue

National Geographic Magazine
=
Magic gape on genital hair 'n' zoa ;)

(Zoa = animals)
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Weapons of mass destruction = wars made of suspect notions -- Wordminer, 15:14:49 01/29/03 Wed
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[> Weapons of Mass destruction = [semi-rude] -- Wordminer, 03:44:07 01/30/03 Thu

Wanton US priests face Sodom.
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[> Weapons of mass destruction = Open fact: so used in most wars -- A. Sadali, 05:53:34 01/30/03 Thu
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[> Re: Weapons of mass destruction = wars made of suspect notions - Great! Top NOM -- Allan Morley, 14:49:53 01/30/03 Thu
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CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Larry Brash, 18:58:11 01/27/03 Mon

Sorry about about relative absence from the Forum over the last month. It has been a busy time running ywo contests.

Now that the Grand Anagrammies are over, and before we finish off this month, I would like a show of hands for the following proposed category changes.

1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special (for the longer ones), or General or Rude or whatever (for the short ones).

Justification:
Given the low numbers in this category over the last 12-18 months.

My thoughts:
I have to reluctantly agree that it is time for Spam to go. I doubt there will be too many objections, as this opens the way for the creation of a new category.

2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be created.

Justification:
There has always been a dead space between those anagrams that were just a bit too long to make the 40 letter cut for the short categories, but that had no chance against 100-999 letter competitors.

My thoughts:
I strongly support this idea.

3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.

Justification:
Some members have expressed an interest in this, but there are reservations about the frequency of these to justify a new category.

My thoughts:
A compromise might be using this for an Awardsmaster's Challenge, along the lines of: I give a half sentence, then everyone else completes it anagrammatically (of course).

4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12 letters.

Justification:
Limited interest, despite the fact the good very short anagrams are highly prized. In there lies the problem. It is likely too few would be found or the standard would be rather low to make up the numbers.

My thoughts:
Good very short anagrans always tend to do well in the General Category. I am not in favour of a short category.

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I would everyone to give a yes or no on the above, with discussion if necessary. I would prefer if we could limit discussion to the above 4 proposals. While I would like this to be discussed here in the Forum, you may email me if you want to offer a private opinion.

If there is some reasonable level of consensus, then we reallocate anagrams to their relevant neew category for this month's competition. This will give us a full 12 months of consistent categories for next year's Grand Anagrammies.

Larry
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Jaybur, 19:05:21 01/27/03 Mon

>Now that the Grand Anagrammies are over, and before we
>finish off this month, I would like a show of hands
>for the following proposed category changes.
>
>1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special
>(for the longer ones), or General or Rude or whatever
>(for the short ones).

>
>Justification:
>Given the low numbers in this category over the last
>12-18 months.
>
>My thoughts:
>I have to reluctantly agree that it is time for Spam
>to go. I doubt there will be too many objections, as
>this opens the way for the creation of a new category.
>
Agreed.

>2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be
>created.
>
>Justification:
>There has always been a dead space between those
>anagrams that were just a bit too long to make the 40
>letter cut for the short categories, but that had no
>chance against 100-999 letter competitors.
>
>My thoughts:
>I strongly support this idea.

Agreed - good idea.
>
>3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.
>
>Justification:
>Some members have expressed an interest in this, but
>there are reservations about the frequency of these to
>justify a new category.
>
>My thoughts:
>A compromise might be using this for an Awardsmaster's
>Challenge, along the lines of: I give a half sentence,
>then everyone else completes it anagrammatically (of
>course).

I think the Challenge idea is an excellent one.
>
>4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12
>letters.
>
>Justification:
>Limited interest, despite the fact the good very short
>anagrams are highly prized. In there lies the problem.
>It is likely too few would be found or the standard
>would be rather low to make up the numbers.
>
>My thoughts:
>Good very short anagrans always tend to do well in the
>General Category. I am not in favour of a short
>category.

I agree with you - the 'shorts' are often favoured.
>
>--------
>
>I would everyone to give a yes or no on the above,
>with discussion if necessary. I would prefer if we
>could limit discussion to the above 4 proposals. While
>I would like this to be discussed here in the Forum,
>you may email me if you want to offer a private
>opinion.
>
>If there is some reasonable level of consensus, then
>we reallocate anagrams to their relevant neew category
>for this month's competition. This will give us a full
>12 months of consistent categories for next year's
>Grand Anagrammies.
>
>Larry

Thanks for all your work on the above!

Janet
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Paul Pan, 19:42:19 01/27/03 Mon

>1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special

DISAGREE, I feel Spam merits its own category.

>2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be
>created.

AGREE

>3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.
>
AGREE such a category is redundant. In any case, I would welcome for frequent Awadrmaster's challenges. The last one on N. Armstrong's infamous quote was a lot of fun.
>
>4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12
>letters.

DISAGREE, it would be redundant.
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Adrian H, 23:12:07 01/27/03 Mon

Sorry about about relative absence from the Forum over the last month. It has been a busy time running ywo contests.

Now that the Grand Anagrammies are over, and before we finish off this month, I would like a show of hands for the following proposed category changes.

1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special (for the longer ones), or General or Rude or whatever (for the short ones).

Justification:
Given the low numbers in this category over the last 12-18 months.

My thoughts:
I have to reluctantly agree that it is time for Spam to go. I doubt there will be too many objections, as this opens the way for the creation of a new category.

2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be created.

Justification:
There has always been a dead space between those anagrams that were just a bit too long to make the 40 letter cut for the short categories, but that had no chance against 100-999 letter competitors.

My thoughts:
I strongly support this idea.

3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.

Justification:
Some members have expressed an interest in this, but there are reservations about the frequency of these to justify a new category.

My thoughts:
A compromise might be using this for an Awardsmaster's Challenge, along the lines of: I give a half sentence, then everyone else completes it anagrammatically (of course).

4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12 letters.

Justification:
Limited interest, despite the fact the good very short anagrams are highly prized. In there lies the problem. It is likely too few would be found or the standard would be rather low to make up the numbers.

My thoughts:
Good very short anagrans always tend to do well in the General Category. I am not in favour of a short category.

--------

I would everyone to give a yes or no on the above, with discussion if necessary. I would prefer if we could limit discussion to the above 4 proposals. While I would like this to be discussed here in the Forum, you may email me if you want to offer a private opinion.

If there is some reasonable level of consensus, then we reallocate anagrams to their relevant neew category for this month's competition. This will give us a full 12 months of consistent categories for next year's Grand Anagrammies.

Larry

=

Hello Larry (and the rest of the gang!)

My twopence worth:
The reorganisation of the structure of the Anagrammies seems to have been thought about for some time. January, Two-thousand and Three is here, so we can successfully alter the framework or architecture of the Awards without harming them too much.

What follows is waffle, a goofy synopsis, a selection of my subconscious cranial observances, solitary thoughts together with egregious theories, elaborate tomfoolery, monotonous buffoonery.
But first, here's the short version of my message :
Yes. Yes. No. No.

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Option One - To Spamagram or not to Spamagram, that is the question...
The category's out of date. Obsolete. Okay, almost obsolete, anyway. Please get rid of it (or re-categorise) - for I've never even come close to receiving this prize (thanks to Larry, Mey, Richard G., etc.)
But please try to remember the extraordinarily forgettable first winner by Dave Linabury:
Are the streets paved with gold??? =
Travel the widespread ghettos

Option Two - New intermediate-length 'grams:
I have no objections. David A. Green will be joyfully gleesome, outstandingly jubilant if this new category is ever established. "Whoopee!" Here's a recent one of his that might have effortlessly won this award:
Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber's stage musical 'The Phantom of the Opera' =
He sang banal tripe, but it's the composer who was really deformed!

Option Three - Tom's valid, strange idea ~ to devise tild'anagrams
As others have mentioned, ~ have no "Tom"s here instead.
Let's choose straightaway not to adopt the unwholesome concept whatsoever, I beseech thee. Okay?

I countenance the notion that more Awardsmaster's Challenges ought to be circulated, but - caution! - this therefore ought not to result in a significant increase in work for Larry or any other appointed officials.

Option Four - Milligrams = I: Small, grim
Limited littleness. Trivial tinytude. Pygmy dwarfism. Intangible insignificance. Molecular minuteness.
Let's not go there. Eject the subject of this conjecture.

Hopefully, these senseless fragmentary offerings give an abbreviated insight into a fraction of my thoughts about the future structure of our monthly examination.

Ciao
Adrian
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[> [> Adrian, you´re sick! How can one gram even this!? Amazing! -- Hans-Peter, 23:20:18 01/27/03 Mon
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[> [> Holy cow! LONG NOM! -- Paul Pan, 23:26:29 01/27/03 Mon
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Jesse Frankovich, 03:11:49 01/28/03 Tue

>1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special
>(for the longer ones), or General or Rude or whatever
>(for the short ones).

>JF thoughts:
>Yup, absorb Spam.
>
>2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be
>created.
>
>JF thoughts:
>I strongly support this idea, too.
>
>3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.
>
>LB thoughts:
>A compromise might be using this for an Awardsmaster's
>Challenge, along the lines of: I give a half sentence,
>then everyone else completes it anagrammatically (of
>course).

JF: I agree, not a permanent category but maybe a special challenge from time to time.
>
>4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12
>letters.
>
JF: Not in favor, the shortest anagrams are merely some of the best in the current 6 short categories.

Great thoughts Larry, Thanks.

Jesse
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Wordminer, 03:45:53 01/28/03 Tue

>1. The absorption of "Spam" into the other categories.
>2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be
>created.
>3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.
>4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12
>letters.
1. Yes 2. Yes. 3. No 4. No.

I suggest a rotating category - one which differs from month to month. It would be filled by low-volume categories such as Spam, Tilde, Ultrashort which could accumulate for several months and could feature specialised competitions such as Challenges (a single source word, phrase, or sentence or a choice of a small number) or a theme competition (book titles, movies, sports, holidays, proverbs, etc.) The category for each month would announced by the middle of the PREVIOUS month to allow plenty of time, or a multi-month schedule could be drawn up in advance. The limiting factor would be the amount of work involved.

The open categories often have widely disparate entries, none of which is "better" than the others, but which compete head-to-head nonetheless. Theme or Challenge categories would be more focused and more competitive.
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- David A. Green, 08:36:55 01/28/03 Tue

>1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special
>(for the longer ones), or General or Rude or whatever
>(for the short ones).

Yes.

>2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be
>created.

Yes. However, I would prefer the intermediary category to be 50-100 letters. After all, the Forum welcome message actually states "If you wish to post a single short anagram (<50 letters)..." Also, I feel there ought to be some leeway to include slightly longer anagrams in the themed category to which they clearly belong. For example, if someone posted an anagram of '"Love and Mr. Lewisham: A Story of A Very Young Couple" by HG Wells' (52 letters)then in my view this anagram should go into ENTERTAINMENT. I would be happy for the Awardmaster to have discretion in switching borderline cases between categories.


>3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.

No. Tilde-style anagrams already co-exist and compete on an equal footing with other, more regular-style anagrams (Noel Coward is ~ no Oscar Wilde). But if the majority favours a separate category then go for it!


>4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12
>letters.

No.
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Richard G, 12:37:38 01/28/03 Tue

>1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special
>(for the longer ones), or General or Rude or whatever
>(for the short ones).

It would be a pity to see it go, and I concur with Paul's thought that Spams belongs in their own category - in many ways they're a breed apart. But they haven't been earning their keep of late, so I support the merger.

>2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be
>created.

Strongly support.
I have to admit to being not so fussed by David Green's 0-50 and 50-100 suggestion, however. Admittedly it's a very blurry line - not even a line at all, to be honest - but 50 still feels like too much freedom, IMO. I can't give a good reason why that is, but in my experience doing a 50-letter 'gram is much more like doing a 100-letter than attempting a 20- or even 30-letter one.
[Sorry to sound like a broken record on this, BTW.]

>3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.
>My thoughts:
>A compromise might be using this for an Awardsmaster's
>Challenge, along the lines of: I give a half sentence,
>then everyone else completes it anagrammatically (of
>course).

Possibly too restrictive - leaving the choice of subject text open would make it a more interesting competition. Alternatively, Wordminer's rotating-cat suggestion certainly bears thinking about, but seeing as it won't affect the next Grand Anagrammies it can be left for now and discussed in detail later. [Apologies if this sounds like a fob-off, Wordy.]

>4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12
>letters.
>My thoughts:
>Good very short anagrams always tend to do well in the
>General Category. I am not in favour of a short
>category.

I would like to see it, and unlike Larry I suspect the quality is sustainable (especially with the added encouragement of an Award). However, I suspect we'd just end up handing out 4 Generals most months. (Not that that's a bad thing.)
Compromises exist (like dropping General proper from 3 to 2, or ensuring the best-placed ultrashort is awarded even if it's fifth or sixth) but I doubt we could get everyone to agree on a solution. Besides, if all else fails there's always the Awardsmaster's Choice for a truly worthy non-winning shorty.

---
RG
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[> Re: CATEGORY REORGANISATION SURVEY -- Allan Morley, 14:37:49 01/30/03 Thu

My 2 cents, better late than never.

>1. The absorption of "Spam" into Long or Special
>(for the longer ones), or General or Rude or whatever
>(for the short ones).

I'd miss Spam, as I like the category and I've had success there in the past. I've also just done one, only to discover that the category's disappeared a matter of days earlier. :( But I know I'm in the minority, and I'm happy for it to compete in Long instead (assuming it's NOMmed).

>2. Medium length category, say 40 - 100 letters, be
>created.

Yes

>3. Sentence or Tilde (~) Category be created.

No strong opinion

>4. Ultra-short Category, limit of 10, maybe 12
>letters.

Ditto.

Allan
[6027]
Divine inspiration = Aid, tip, inner vision... -- Jesse F, 11:31:22 01/30/03 Thu
[6026]
[The male psyche:] Read directions? = Dare discretion! -- Jesse F, 07:50:05 01/30/03 Thu
[6024]
Saddam Hussein's palace-bunker = 'Bad spies' unmask nuclear heads. -- Mey K., 08:38:46 01/29/03 Wed
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[> ['Bad spies' unmask nuclear heads.] Brilliant, MK! Topical NOM. -- Jesse F, 09:06:41 01/29/03 Wed
[6002]

[> [> Thanks, Jesse! Saddam's Palace = A madcap leads. -- Mey K., 07:01:03 01/30/03 Thu
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I, starring as ~ a rising star. -- A. Sadali, 06:07:17 01/30/03 Thu
[6019]
Hepatitis C ~ is pathetic -- Paul Pan, 23:43:59 01/29/03 Wed
[6015]
The Heimlich Maneuver = Even I´m much healthier! ;-) -- Hans-Peter, 02:33:12 01/29/03 Wed
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[> Re: The Heimlich Maneuver = Even I´m much healthier! ;-) -- David A. Green, 07:17:11 01/29/03 Wed

Good one, HP! With the British spelling we get:

The Heimlich manoeuvre = Ah, I remove lunch item, eh?

(Posted originally to alt.anagrams in October last year.)

Heimlich manoeuvre: a technique in first aid to dislodge a foreign body trapped in a person's windpipe by applying sudden upward pressure on the abdomen.
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[> [> Apt! GEN nom [Heimlich manoeuvre] -- Paul Pan, 18:25:00 01/29/03 Wed
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[> [> [> [Apt! GEN nom] Thanks, Pavlos. -- Hans-Peter, 22:29:09 01/29/03 Wed
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Are these anagrams ? I'm old = I mold | Nomad ? = No - mad. -- Wordminer, 06:19:38 01/29/03 Wed
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[> [I'm old = I mold] is hilarious! Gen NOM if new... seems to be an anagram to me! -- Jesse, 06:27:30 01/29/03 Wed
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[> [> Sorry, WM, submitted by M. Maguire in August 2001 (see alt.anagrams Google search) -- Jesse, 06:44:12 01/29/03 Wed
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[> "Superbowl = superb owl" -- Zoran, 20:02:48 01/29/03 Wed
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State of the Union = Attention of U.S., eh? = Faith out, not seen. = Oath often unites? -- Jesse F, 09:24:34 01/29/03 Wed
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[> Re: State of the Union: one more [Rude] ... -- JF2, 09:29:46 01/29/03 Wed

State of the Union =

O, often a shit tune.
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[> [Couldn't resist:] State of the Union Address = Another daft tediousness. -- Jesse F, 09:44:49 01/29/03 Wed
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inebriate - a beer in it -- cari, 22:30:20 01/28/03 Tue
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[> Ms. Cari = Racism. //// Newbie Cari = I/we: "Nice bra." -- JF2, 06:19:03 01/29/03 Wed
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bedroom = boredom -- A. Sadali, 05:43:56 01/29/03 Wed
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dry Arab's view = war is very bad -- A. Sadali, 05:32:00 01/29/03 Wed
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Anti-War Movement = Never want to maim. -- Jaybur, 00:58:58 01/29/03 Wed
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[> Excellent! GEN/TOP nom ;) -- Paul Pan, 02:16:41 01/29/03 Wed
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Barry Manilow = Worry, I´m banal! -- Hans-Peter, 17:20:55 01/24/03 Fri
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[> I could not agree more! NAME NOM! -- Larry Brash, 21:49:23 01/28/03 Tue
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[> [> [NAME NOM!] Thanks, Larry. -- Hans-Peter, 01:51:30 01/29/03 Wed
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A Porsche Cayenne = Yes, car: none cheap! -- Jaybur, 21:51:28 01/27/03 Mon
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[> Porsche Cayenne ~ on hep racy scene -- Paul Pan, 02:09:58 01/28/03 Tue
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[> Re: A Porsche Cayenne = Yes, car: none cheap! *NOM* -- Amir, 02:58:06 01/28/03 Tue
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[> [> Re: A Porsche Cayenne = Yes, car: none cheap! *NOM* Thank you, Amir! -- Jaybur, 00:57:42 01/29/03 Wed
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CATEGORY SURVEY RESULTS -- Larry Brash, 21:45:15 01/28/03 Tue

10 people replied (2 by email). That's a quorum as far as I am concerned

Results (no surprises)

1. Drop Spam.
Yes: 8
No: 2

Bye bye, Spam - I'll miss you!

2. Medium Category
Yes: unanimously.

WOW, 10 people agreeing with eachother! Amazing!

3. Sentence Category
Yes: 1 (and it was not Tom)
No: 9

Sorry, Tom, that's democracy for you!

4. Ultra short Category
Yes: 1. Richard sort of wanted it... I think... or maybe not... he was not sure if he was ambivalent or not, but he could be... perhaps... however I am kind of uncertain if he might have been (possibly)
:-)
No: 9

So, it is now official.

BTW, Adrian, you could have fixed my typo before you anagrammed me! :-)
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Same-sex couples = See us as complex -- Adrian H, 19:54:55 01/28/03 Tue
[5979]

[> Re: Same-sex couples = See us as complex : Wonderful! NOM! -- A. Sadali, 20:51:07 01/28/03 Tue
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[> [> [Wonderful! NOM!] Thanks :) Is it rude enough for rude? -- AH, 21:02:38 01/28/03 Tue
[5982]
Re: Black taxis = Sit back, relax -- Adrian H, 20:00:07 01/28/03 Tue
[5980]
Victoria's Secret, corrected [obviously naughty!] -- Paul Pan, 00:45:58 01/17/03 Fri

Victoria's Secret
=
I cover & caress tit
Scar site? Cover it!
It covers, it cares!
Covers ace tit, sir
I caress erotic TV [transvestite]
Active corset, sir!
Erotic star's vice
Over-ecstatic, sir!
Active escort, sir!
Actress? I cover it!
Visit escort care
It: Ass-corrective
Covers tits. I care!
Escort ties vicar ~ So, vicar, it's erect?
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[> Rude self-NOM -- Paul Pan, 18:55:47 01/28/03 Tue

Victoria's Secret
=
I cover, caress tit
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Coalition of the willing = Chilling footnote, I wail! (+ a couple more) -- Swill Beater, 05:21:46 01/28/03 Tue

Coalition of the willing
=
I act in following the oil.
I, wooing, call the fit lion.
[5956]

[> *TOP NOM* for "I act in following the oil". -- Richard G, 11:46:35 01/28/03 Tue
[5967]

[> [> Re: *TOP NOM* for "I act in following the oil". Thanks -- Swill Beater, 16:49:21 01/28/03 Tue
[5977]
CURRENT NOMS [with tentative category changes] -- Richard G, 13:30:36 01/28/03 Tue

Here is the list of current noms with Medium instead of Spam, as the consensus thus far seems to be. Those few short spams that have been nommed this month have for now been tentatively placed in Other Names, as all were slogans of sorts ("EARN MONEY!" "PLEASE TRY MY PRODUCT" and "Eliminate PC errors instantly!"). General is also an option.

---
RG
[5973]

[> Re: short Spam placement -- Jesse F, 14:32:30 01/28/03 Tue

>Those few short
>spams that have been nommed this month have for now
>been tentatively placed in Other Names, as all were
>slogans of sorts ("EARN MONEY!" "PLEASE TRY MY
>PRODUCT" and "Eliminate PC errors instantly!").
>General is also an option.

Seems they have to go to General to me... (the category for that which cannot be otherwise categorised) ... these are not really the Name of any Other thing (place, org, product, etc). Maybe Topical if spamming can be considered a 'current' (ongoing) event.

Jesse
[5974]

[> one mis-credited -- Wordminer, 14:56:49 01/28/03 Tue

"Coalition of the willing" belongs to Swill Beater.
[5976]
i anti-war = i want air! -- A. Sadali, 13:29:17 01/28/03 Tue
[5972]
leaders = dealers -- A. Sadali, 13:27:08 01/28/03 Tue
[5971]
natural big tits ... RUDE -- A. Sadali, 13:25:26 01/28/03 Tue

natural big tits = it's giant, brutal!
[5970]
Bilbo Baggins of the Shire = Fable goes: hobbit, his ring. -- Jesse Frankovich, 15:49:07 01/27/03 Mon
[5921]

[> Re: Bilbo Baggins of the Shire = Fable goes: hobbit, his ring. -- Liz Henry, 16:19:13 01/27/03 Mon

That is great - coincidentally I was just fooling around with Frodo Baggins (= Rings bad, goof!)

Frodo Baggins of the Shire = Forge bad ring - Oh, thief! SOS!

But yours is such a perfect summing up!
[5922]

[> [> Re: Bilbo Baggins of the Shire = Fable goes: hobbit, his ring. [NOM?] -- Jesse, 11:54:00 01/28/03 Tue

Liz the Newbie wrote:

>That is great ...
> yours is such a perfect summing up!


Is this a NOM?

If not, or indeterminate, Self Entertainment NOM.
[5968]
Anesthesiology = Lose thy agonies -- Liz Henry, 18:30:58 01/26/03 Sun
[5897]

[> The American Dental Society of Anesthesiology = So, one may need gas if incisor teeth totally ache! [Welcome to the Forum, Liz]. -- David A. Green, 20:49:39 01/26/03 Sun
[5903]

[> [> [So, one may need gas if incisor teeth totally ache!] Great! *OTHER NAMES NOM*, David. -- Richard G, 13:05:33 01/27/03 Mon
[5917]

[> Very apt! GEN NOM -- Paul Pan, 00:06:36 01/27/03 Mon

Welcome to the Forum!
Liz Henry
=
Hi,NZ lyre
Nely Hirz
Yin Herzl
Inez Rhyl
Eryn Hilz
Lyn Hizer
[5904]

[> Elizabeth Henry = Hereby zenithal. [+ a few more] -- Jesse F, 05:47:14 01/27/03 Mon

Elizabeth Henry =

Breezy in health.
Belay her zenith.
Bite her lazy hen.
Haze by her inlet?
Hazily: "Beer then?"
Hereby zenithal.
Hi! The zany rebel.
Breezy, lithe? Nah.
[5911]

[> [> Re: Elizabeth Henry = Hereby zenithal. [+ a few more] -- Larry Brash, 16:53:42 01/27/03 Mon

Welcome, Liz. The "Z" adds some interest.

>Elizabeth Henry =

Hey! Nazi blether!
Hereby hint: zeal.
"NIL" The Hazy Beer.
Hey! Her Nazi belt.
Lazy hen hit beer.
Haze by three-nil.
Lazy, eh? Bin there.
Barely the Heinz.
Hitler? He be zany.
They haze Berlin.
Hire, then be lazy.

Larry
[5924]

[> Welcome to the Forum, healthier by Zen! -- Richard G, 13:19:50 01/27/03 Mon
[5918]

[> [> Re: Welcome to the Forum, healthier by Zen! -- Liz Henry, 16:28:06 01/27/03 Mon

And with my middle name it's "Hit me brazenly - yeah!" or "I raze a blythe hymen"
[5923]

[> [> [> Re: Welcome to the Forum, healthier by Zen! -- Larry Brash, 17:03:05 01/27/03 Mon

>And with my middle name it's "Hit me brazenly - yeah!"
>or "I raze a blythe hymen"

Elizabeth May Henry =
Healthy beer? I'm zany. (or "Zany beer? I'm healthy")
I, hereby, am lazy, then.

Larry
[5925]

[> [> [> [> Elizabeth May Henry = They inhale my zebra! :) -- Richard G, 11:24:56 01/28/03 Tue
[5962]

[> [> [> Could her middle name not be Amy, Mya, or Yam? :^) ... -- Jesse F, 11:45:55 01/28/03 Tue

>And with my middle name it's "Hit me brazenly - yeah!"
>or "I raze a blythe hymen"

Elizabeth Amy Henry = Lazy hymen bait here.
[5966]
[He lost!] Schuettler versus Agassi = S**t! Curses savage result! -- Jaybur, 19:09:50 01/27/03 Mon
[5934]

[> Language! Wash your mouth out! -- Deebour, 20:52:46 01/27/03 Mon
[5939]

[> [> OK: Schuettler versus Agassi =Curses this savage result! -- Jaybur, 21:39:48 01/27/03 Mon
[5940]

[> [> Deebour = O, be rude! = Dour bee = Beer duo = OU breed. -- Jesse F, 03:25:22 01/28/03 Tue
[5951]

[> Excellent, we've corrupted you at last. :) -- Richard G, 11:42:30 01/28/03 Tue
[5965]
Actress Tea Leoni = See role: it's an act! -- Jaybur, 21:49:36 01/27/03 Mon
[5942]

[> Actress Tea Leoni ~ is one ace starlet! -- AH, 23:18:57 01/27/03 Mon
[5945]

[> [> [Actress Tea Leoni ~ is one ace starlet!] Nice antigram. :P *NAME/ENT NOM* -- Richard G, 11:37:35 01/28/03 Tue
[5964]
Toilet (paper) humour -- Richard G, 13:41:22 01/27/03 Mon

Sorbent toilet tissue =
To sterilise one's butt.

The label boasts "Australia's Number One", which makes me wonder if they really know what their product's for. ;)

---
RG
[5919]

[> Ha! Other-name NOM :) -- Paul Pan, 17:58:32 01/27/03 Mon
[5931]

[> Re: Toilet (paper) humour -- Larry Brash, 19:17:24 01/27/03 Mon

>Sorbent toilet tissue =
>To sterilise one's butt.

Perfect!

>The label boasts "Australia's Number One", which makes
>me wonder if they really know what their product's
>for. ;)

It should read "Australia's Number One for Number Two's" ;-)

[just checking our brand]

Kleenex Toilet Tissues =
Uses note-like textiles.
[5935]

[> [> Thanks, Paul and Larry! -- Richard G, 11:30:46 01/28/03 Tue

>[just checking our brand]
>
>Kleenex Toilet Tissues =
>Uses note-like textiles.

Using $50 notes again, Larry? Jeez, rich people today. :)

---
RG
[5963]
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable... -- Jesse Frankovich, 04:03:47 01/28/03 Tue

The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.
=
Grievance note: Yeah right, you flubbing reject computer! I feel this is greatly ridiculous, exasperating, and tiresome... The web runs fine -- can you load two kilobytes?
[5953]

[> Re: EXCELLENT! ... A spam at its best ... *SPAM NOM* -- A. Sadali, 05:02:08 01/28/03 Tue
[5954]

[> [> Thanks, Ahmad, but... -- Jesse F, 07:21:10 01/28/03 Tue

Thanks, but not really a Spam, more of just a general computer malaise. So just a regular Long NOM. Meanwhile, looks like Spam might get axed this month anyway.

Cheers,

Jesse
[5959]
Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix = Chap blew Hussain's toxic inferno pen -- Paul Pan, 19:27:47 01/27/03 Mon
[5936]

[> Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix = Toxic inferno absence spun whiplash -- Paul Pan, 19:35:57 01/27/03 Mon
[5937]

[> Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix = In pinch, US foe chose Plan "B"; war is next. -- Wordminer, 07:19:45 01/28/03 Tue
[5958]
Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector = The linchpin cop warns axis on US beef -- Swill Beater, 05:05:19 01/28/03 Tue
[5955]
Charitable donations = A noble cash tradition. -- Jaybur, 01:28:45 01/27/03 Mon
[5907]

[> [Charitable donations = A noble cash tradition.] Nice, Janet - Gen NOM. -- Jesse F, 05:30:14 01/27/03 Mon
[5910]

[> [> Re: Nice, Janet - Gen NOM. Thank you kindly, Jesse! -- Jaybur, 17:31:36 01/27/03 Mon
[5929]

[> Seconded! -- Paul Pan, 17:53:16 01/27/03 Mon
[5930]

[> [> Re: Seconded! Ta, Paul! -- Jaybur, 21:42:47 01/27/03 Mon
[5941]
Naomi Wolf = I am no fowl! -- Jaybur, 17:25:21 01/27/03 Mon
[5928]
Stage act = Get a cast. -- Jaybur, 01:27:45 01/27/03 Mon
[5906]

[> [Get a cast] Bingo! *GEN NOM*, Jaybur. -- Richard G, 12:57:49 01/27/03 Mon
[5916]

[> [> Re: [Get a cast] Bingo! *GEN NOM*, Jaybur. Thanks, RG! -- Jaybur, 17:23:31 01/27/03 Mon
[5927]
Excellent duo on Superbowl -- Zoran, 11:34:20 01/27/03 Mon

Sting and Gwen Stefani performed together "Message in a bottle".

Gwen Stefani's ~ wee Sting's fan !
[5915]
War is postponed = Its weapons drop. -- Mey K., 08:51:30 01/27/03 Mon
[5914]
[Talk about lame excuses...] Guitarist Pete Townshend = What git studies teen porn?! -- Mey K., 17:32:03 01/26/03 Sun
[5896]

[> Guitarist Pete Townshend = What git studies teen porn?! * NOM * + another anagram -- David A. Green, 19:41:25 01/26/03 Sun

Indeed. TOPICAL or NAMES NOM

The legendary rock guitarist Pete Townshend =
Regrets that 'e watches ugly kiddie porn on net.
[5902]

[> [> Thanks, David, and nice 'gram! :) -- Mey K., 08:48:54 01/27/03 Mon
[5913]
Finally, the Area 51 anagram I promised (RUDE!) -- Joe F., 08:08:12 01/26/03 Sun

The source text for this anagram is from http://www.area51.net/main2.html

I'm a bit out of practice at long anagrams, but I hope you like it.

-----------------------------------------------------------

What is AREA51.NET all about?

Our goal is to bring you the best collection of links and information on Government conspiracies, advanced technologies, and UFO's that has ever been compiled on the Internet!

It is not our intention to draw conclusions on these subjects for you, but to allow you to quickly and easily access information. It is in the discussion and research of these topics that the truth can eventually be sifted out. There is a great deal of content on these subjects scattered throughout the Internet. It is our intention to unite this content right here at AREA51.NET.

Television shows such as Star Trek The Next Generation, and The X Files have created a great deal of public interest in the unknown. In addition, they have impacted not only the world of science fiction, but the world of science fact as well. There are many unanswered questions when it comes to what the Government does behind closed doors. There are equally as many questions about secret advanced technology, both terrestrial and extra terrestrial. It is the unknown that both frightens and intrigues us. It is a puzzle that has taken years to develop, and may take many more years to complete. Come and join us on this journey into the unknown.

=

Once, in Area 51....

[Seven loud gunshots]

Kid : Eh, what's that?

Soldier : [Talks on mobile] Seems it was that rotten Joe Fathallah and friends. They've been on the FBI Most Wanted List for ages! [Talks on mobile] Oh never? Shit! Cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt! Shit! CUNT! The corpses did not quite land across the line! You can pull them over then, boy.

Kid : Yes Sir! [Runs]

Soldier : So, to Mr Bin Laden then. Nice to meet you. Here's your cool luxury house, with sauna facilities. Note that the one condition is, we can just look for you in any country in the Middle East forever. Agreed to, then?

Bin Laden : Agreed to! Neat!

[Texan accent, out of a tent] : Tony cutey, that bum's nice! Give it to me, honey! Bash on it, pet! And eat at the teats, pet! Oooh! Nice infective spurt!

Bin Laden : Eh, what's that noise then?

Soldier : Er.... that I cannot, er.... just don't worry about that. Come here and see this neat exhibit.

Bin Laden : I cannot, there's nothing in it!

Soldier : Quite so, it's the President's cranium. Now, here's Zorg, of the planet Qari.

Zorg : [Not understandable, characterless noises]

Soldier : We attacked Qari ten, no, twelve years ago, since it contains 51 great vast stocks of Lio, a precious natural resource that we lack. Now the Intergalactic Community hates us forever. Now, I need to join George and Tony! [Runs off fast]
[5877]

[> Ah ah ah! GNOL MON, Eoj. -- Richard G, 11:32:42 01/26/03 Sun
[5883]

[> Sknaht, GR ;-) -- Joe F., 08:21:53 01/27/03 Mon
[5912]
New Fortune -- David Bourke, 17:15:51 01/24/03 Fri


As printed in yesterday's Daily Mail, my reworking
of a poem by a burglar with 42 convictions who was
released by a judge due to his "talent" for writing
"poetry"...

New Fortune I bought
In my day at court
I've now been set free
In a blaze of publicity
So that everyone can see
My great ability
Lord Woolf brought forth
A new law
To set people free
From the courtroom door
Judge Goldstein took
his hand in mine
And said to write a book
For all to look

- Mark Patterson

=

I was banged-up too, but I am still here,
Four prison walls, no freedom near.
OK, now I've the odd day, taken out,
But, the party over, zoom 'home', no doubt.

Alone, all alone, lost writing hot books,
Literate, between too many petty crooks.
According to my 'fragrant' wife,
I ought to be inside for life!

- Jeffrey Archer




db
[5848]

[> Re: New Fortune *SPECIAL NOM*, DB. -- Richard G, 10:45:17 01/26/03 Sun
[5881]

[> [> *SPECIAL NOM*, DB. - Thank you, RG! -- David Bourke, 04:26:44 01/27/03 Mon
[5909]
A specialist in urology (mildly rude) -- Ernesto G, 01:30:41 01/27/03 Mon

A specialist in urology = Your penis as licit goal
[5908]
Tennis player Rainer Schuettler = Return is ace in the present rally. + more -- Jaybur, 01:26:34 01/27/03 Mon

Rainer Schuettler = Ace Herr's title run.
[5905]
University of Chicago = City of sour achieving -- Liz Henry, 18:43:43 01/26/03 Sun
[5901]
Anesthesiology = Silent hose yoga -- Liz Henry, 18:41:46 01/26/03 Sun
[5900]
University of Chicago = O safe virginity couch! -- Liz Henry, 18:35:47 01/26/03 Sun
[5899]
Anesthesiology = Elation, gosh, yes! -- Liz Henry, 18:34:12 01/26/03 Sun

Also "Soothingly ease". No, I'm not an anesthesiologist, I just worked in a hospital once and was messing around with words.
[5898]
The Unspoken Line -- Mey K., 20:31:16 01/18/03 Sat

Rossetti's poem is anagrammed into a different, more modern poem, which is also switched to fit the man's perspective. But there's another twist: In the anagram, the man's final, unspoken line is indeed hidden. Can you find it?


Christina Rossetti
Listening

She listened like a cushat dove
That listens to its mate alone:
She listened like a cushat dove
That loves but only one.

Not fair as men would reckon fair,
Nor noble as they count the line:
Only as graceful as a bough,
And tendrils of the vine:
Only as noble as sweet Eve
Your ancestress and mine.

And downcast were her dovelike eyes,
And downcast was her tender cheek;
Her pulses fluttered like a dove
To hear him speak.

=

Meyran K.
Inner Vow's Unvoiced

She asked if I won't talk to her at all.
She sneered: "You really need a shrink, my sweet.
"Please talk. Shall we concur - no drinks, nor calls?"
About to leave, she said "I guess that's it".
She kissed me on the forehead once, in tears,
And, silently, I saw her leave the flat.
Against my will, no sentence did she hear -
"Love cannot cease", or blunt raves close to that,
No sound to even scoff... But, deep inside,
Not to be uttered, hid this guarantee:



S
C
R
O
L
L

D
O
W
N

F
O
R

T
H
E

A
N
S
W
E
R


To reveal the final line, read down each 3rd word of the other ones...

Later!,
Mey K.
[5720]

[> Re: [The Unspoken Line] Wonderfully poignant, Mey! Special NOM. -- Jaybur, 21:05:59 01/18/03 Sat
[5721]

[> Seconded! Excellent! -- Jesse F, 07:21:11 01/19/03 Sun
[5727]

[> [> Thank you both. Glad you liked it! -- Mey K., 17:26:25 01/26/03 Sun
[5895]
Literature for blind persons = Friends turn prose to Braille. -- Mey K., 18:57:19 01/25/03 Sat
[5869]

[> [NOM] Fluent and brilliantly apt. . -- Hans-Peter, 20:35:26 01/25/03 Sat
[5871]

[> [> You're too kind, HP! Thanks -- Mey K., 17:22:05 01/26/03 Sun
[5894]
Conditions Apply = Tip: I spy an old con -- Swill Beater, 21:42:24 01/22/03 Wed

This may have been done before, just trying AA
[5807]

[> Swill Beater = I sell web art [+many more] -- JF2, 05:51:21 01/23/03 Thu

Swill Beater =

Albert Lewis.
Weber T. Allis.
Bears it well.
Ties bra well.
Ate ribs well.
Well, it's bare.
Raw beets? Ill.
A swell biter.
Rebel was lit.
Liberal's wet.
I sell web art.
Realist blew.
Will bare set.
Wart bellies.
I be swell rat.
Law: rebels it.
[5820]

[> [> Welcome to the Forum, weal-blister! -- Richard G, 14:46:12 01/23/03 Thu
[5831]

[> [> [> Re: Welcome to the Forum, weal-blister! -- Swill Beater, 17:21:12 01/26/03 Sun

Thanks, JF2 got me in 1.
[5893]

[> Swill beater = A swell tribe / we rate bills / still beware -- Wordminer, 17:04:08 01/23/03 Thu
[5841]
Religions = il signore. -- Larry Brash, 08:39:49 01/26/03 Sun
[5878]

[> [Religions = il signore.] Brilliant! *GEN NOM* -- Richard G, 11:53:20 01/26/03 Sun
[5884]

[> [> Thanks, Richard. Also Religions = nil orgies :-( -- Larry Brash, 12:42:55 01/26/03 Sun
[5886]

[> [> Seconded! A very good find, LB. -- Mey K., 17:20:47 01/26/03 Sun
[5892]
parterretrap = parterretrap (nt) -- Richard, 17:12:19 01/26/03 Sun


--
Posted using Sater anagram checker v. 5.0 (online)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~onnoz/maanrag/sater.html
[5891]
Rainer Schuettler = Rather nice result. [and more] -- Hans-Peter, 21:57:38 01/24/03 Fri

He reached the final in the Australian Open unexpectedly:

Rather nice result.
Return/slice hater.
Crash elite return.
[5854]

[> Rainer Schuettler = Hitler returns ace :P -- Paul Pan, 22:44:30 01/24/03 Fri
[5855]

[> [Rather nice result.] Love the understatement. :) *TOP NOM*, Hans-Peter. -- Richard G, 11:10:49 01/26/03 Sun
[5882]

[> [> *TOP NOM*, Hans-Peter. SECONDED! -- Larry Brash, 12:51:32 01/26/03 Sun
[5888]

[> [> [> [TOP NOM] Thanks to down there, Richard n Larry -- Hans-Peter, 15:01:57 01/26/03 Sun
[5890]
Unilateralism -- Ernesto G, 14:44:51 01/26/03 Sun

Unilateralism = U.S.' martial line
[5889]

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